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#Post#: 84239--------------------------------------------------
G24 Ltd PCN / CCJ Exceeding stay duration Homebase, Bishop
By: happyRR Date: August 5, 2025, 9:50 am
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Hi,
I received CCJ about parking charge from February 2025. Keeping
story short... due to some family events I kept ignoring all
letters from DCBL and considering I paid a penalty on time I
thought this is a basic misunderstanding.
06/02/2025 - date of contravention
18/02/2025 - paid G24 Ltd (received a confirmation and all
reference numbers are matching)
Then after that I've got 2-3 DCBL/DCBLegal letters and then CCJ
from 29/06/2025 as per picture. I called them and the guy said
there is nothing he can do as G24 Ltd referred to them as it was
unpaid. The "funny" thing is that I genuinely paid them, so defo
G24 didn't record this somehow. Looks like because I received
already letter from court the only thing is to defend it now, am
I right? Or still should I call DCBL and demand to remove court
case base on the payment confirmation?
Thanks
#Post#: 84240--------------------------------------------------
Re: G24 Ltd PCN / CCJ Exceeding stay duration Homebase, Bis
hop
By: jfollows Date: August 5, 2025, 10:01 am
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CCJ stands for County Court Judgement, this is a claim form
which only leads to a CCJ if you ignore it or if you contest it
and lose. Even in the latter case, the judgement is expunged if
paid within 30 days and has no negative impact on your credit
ability if so.
#Post#: 84242--------------------------------------------------
Re: G24 Ltd PCN / CCJ Exceeding stay duration Homebase, Bis
hop
By: happyRR Date: August 5, 2025, 10:08 am
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Thanks for quick reply,however I'm still not sure what's the
best to do now? Should I contest it? I found other threads about
similar offence, just not sure if I can reuse the same forms or
I should try talk to DCBLegal again that I paid for the original
PCN.
#Post#: 84245--------------------------------------------------
Re: G24 Ltd PCN / CCJ Exceeding stay duration Homebase, Bis
hop
By: jfollows Date: August 5, 2025, 10:11 am
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If you follow the process and put up a defence then the case
will be discontinued before DCB Legal need to pay the court fee,
its their modus operandi.
Your defence being that the claim is denied because you paid the
original invoice and have proof of having done so.
The normal process requires you to file a defence, then a N180
form to ensure that a court hearing in person at your local
court is established, but it wont actually come to pass because
DCB Legal will give up.
Common sense would be that you could get G24 to call it off now,
but dont call them (or anyone), put it in writing by email or
post. Deal with the organ grinder, not the useless bulk
brainless legal people.
#Post#: 84274--------------------------------------------------
Re: G24 Ltd PCN / CCJ Exceeding stay duration Homebase, Bis
hop
By: b789 Date: August 5, 2025, 11:40 am
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With an issue date of 29th July you have until 4pm on Monday
18th August to submit your defence. If you submit an
Acknowledgement of Service (AoS) before then, you would then
have until 4pm on Monday 1st September to submit your defence.
You only need to submit an AoS if you need extra time to prepare
your defence. If you want to submit an AoS then follow the
instructions in this linked PDF:
HTML https://www.dropbox.com/s/xvqu3bask5m0zir/money-claim-online-How-to-Acknowledge.pdf?dl=0
Until very recently, we never advised using the MCOL to submit a
defence. However, due to recent systemic failures within the
CNBC, we feel that it is safer to now submit a short defence
using MCOL as it is instantly submitted and entered into the
"system". Whilst it will deny the use of some formatting or
inclusion of transcripts etc. these can always be included with
the Witness Statement (WS) later, if it ever progresses that
far.
You will need to copy and paste it into the defence text box on
MCOL. It has been checked to make sure that it will fit into the
65 characters per line and 122 lines limit.
[quote][font=Courier New]1. The Defendant denies the claim in
its entirety. The Defendant
asserts that there is no liability to the Claimant and that no
debt is owed. The claim is without merit and does not adequately
disclose any comprehensible cause of action.
2. There is a lack of precise detail in the Particulars of Claim
(PoC) in respect of the factual and legal allegations made
against the Defendant such that the PoC do not adequately comply
with CPR 16.4.
3. The Defendant is unable to plead properly to the PoC because:
(a) The contract referred to is not detailed or attached to the
PoC in accordance with CPR PD 16.7.3(1);
(b) The PoC do not state the exact wording of the clause
(or clauses) of the terms and conditions of the contract (or
contracts) which is/are relied on;
(c) The PoC do not adequately set out the reason (or reasons)
why the claimant asserts the defendant has breached the contract
(or contracts);
(d) The PoC do not state with sufficient particularity exactly
where the breach occurred, the exact time when the breach
occurred and how long it is alleged that the vehicle was parked
before the parking charge was allegedly incurred;
(e) The PoC do not state precisely how the sum claimed is
calculated, including the basis for any statutory interest,
damages, or other charges;
(f) The PoC do not state what proportion of the claim is the
parking charge and what proportion is damages;
(g) The PoC do not provide clarity on whether the Defendant is
sued as the driver or the keeper of the vehicle, as the claimant
cannot plead alternative causes of action without specificity.
4. The Defendant submits that courts have previously struck out
similar claims of their own initiative for failure to adequately
comply with CPR 16.4, particularly where the Particulars of
Claim failed to specify the contractual terms relied upon or
explain the alleged breach with sufficient clarity.
5. In comparable cases involving modest sums, judges have found
that requiring further case management steps would be
disproportionate and contrary to the overriding objective.
Accordingly, strike-out was deemed appropriate. The Defendant
submits that the same reasoning applies in this case and invites
the court to adopt a similar approach by striking out the claim
due to the Claimants failure to adequately comply with
CPR 16.4, rather than permitting an amendment. The Defendant
proposes that the following Order be made:
Draft Order:
Of the Court's own initiative and upon reading the particulars
of claim and the defence.
AND the court being of the view that the particulars of claim
do not adequately comply with CPR 16.4(1)(a) because:
(a) they do not set out the exact wording of the clause
(or clauses) of the terms and conditions of the contract which
is (or are) relied on; and
(b) they do not adequately set out the reason (or reasons) why
the claimant asserts that the defendant was in breach of
contract.
AND the claimant could have complied with CPR 16.4(1)(a) had it
served separate detailed particulars of claim, as it could have
done pursuant to CPR PD 7C.5.2(2), but chose not to do so.
AND upon the claim being for a very modest sum such that the
court considers it disproportionate and not in accordance with
the overriding objective to allot to this case any further share
of the court's resources by ordering further particulars of
claim and a further defence, each followed by further referrals
to the judge for case management.
ORDER:
1. The claim is struck out.
2. Permission to either party to apply to set aside, vary or
stay this order by application on notice, which must be filed at
this Court not more than 5 days after service of this order,
failing which no such application may be made.[/font][/quote]
#Post#: 87785--------------------------------------------------
Re: G24 Ltd PCN / CCJ Exceeding stay duration Homebase, Bis
hop
By: happyRR Date: August 30, 2025, 6:20 am
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Thanks for that! All completed and sent online and just received
a letter that defence has been received.
#Post#: 90538--------------------------------------------------
Re: G24 Ltd PCN / CCJ Exceeding stay duration Homebase, Bis
hop
By: happyRR Date: September 18, 2025, 12:06 pm
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Hi,
Just received DQ (Form N180) and date till 03 October to reply.
Found other responses about filling DQ, just not sure if mine
should be different as I have paid to G24 Ltd as per my entry
post.
Please advice.
#Post#: 90577--------------------------------------------------
Re: G24 Ltd PCN / CCJ Exceeding stay duration Homebase, Bis
hop
By: b789 Date: September 19, 2025, 2:48 am
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I'm assuming you "paid" G24 the charge for the PCN but they have
continued to chase you for the money. Have you checked to see
whether your original payment actually went through?
You seem unaware that you are being sued for whatever the charge
is they are chasing you. You have defended the claim and
eventually this will all go away when the claim is either struck
out or discontinued.
For now, just follow the advice. Having received your own N180
(make sure it is not simply a copy of the claimants N180), do
not use the paper form. Ignore all the other forms that came
with it. you can discard those. Download your own here and fill
it in on your computer. You sign it by simply typing your full
name in the signature box.
HTML https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/media/673341e779e9143625613543/N180_1124.pdf
Here are the answers to some of the less obvious questions:
[indent] The name of the court is "Civil National Business
Centre".
To be completed by "Your full name" and you are the
"Defendant".
C1: "YES"
D1: "NO". Reason: "I wish to question the Claimant about their
evidence at a hearing in person and to expose omissions and any
misleading or incorrect evidence or assertions.
Given the Claimant is a firm who complete cut & paste parking
case paperwork for a living, having this case heard solely on
papers would appear to put the Claimant at an unfair advantage,
especially as they would no doubt prefer the Defendant not to
have the opportunity to expose the issues in the Claimants
template submissions or speak as the only true witness to events
in question.."
F1: Whichever is your nearest county court. Use this to find
it:
HTML https://www.find-court-tribunal.service.gov.uk/search-option
F3: "1".
Sign the form by simply typing your full name for the
signature.[/indent]
When you have completed the form, attach it to a single email
addressed to both dq.cnbc[member=6517]justice[/member].gov.uk
and info@dcblegal.co.uk and CC in yourself. Make sure that the
claim number is in the subject field of the email.
#Post#: 93907--------------------------------------------------
Re: G24 Ltd PCN / CCJ Exceeding stay duration Homebase, Bis
hop
By: happyRR Date: October 13, 2025, 11:35 am
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Hi,
Regarding G24 and payment... I've got an email confirmation and
it's taken from my bank account. I've called DCBLegal about this
when I've got letter from the court but in their words it's 2
late as it was already allocated to the court etc. I have tried
to talk to someone more competent but couldn't pass 1st line of
the support (I gave up explaining this to their support as I
knew I need to reply to the court case anyway). To be honest
it's a bit my fault as English is not my first language and I
mistranslated an email I've received at early days of this case.
More or less, considering that I've paid and I've got a proof,
should I prepare differently for mediation call allocated in
November? I've found few other threads, so can follow the same
structure, however wondering if I should do this a differently?
Thanks
#Post#: 93944--------------------------------------------------
Re: G24 Ltd PCN / CCJ Exceeding stay duration Homebase, Bis
hop
By: b789 Date: October 13, 2025, 3:58 pm
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You never, ever, 'call' these people! A phone call is not worth
the paper it isn't written on should you need to revert back to
anything said!
Can we please clarify how much did you pay? How much is the
claim for? Show us the Particulars of Claim (PoC).
If you have proof of having paid the PCN in full, then send the
following email to DCB Legal at info@dcblegal.co.uk and CC
yourself:
[quote]Re: G24 Ltd v [Defendant] Claim no. [xxxxx]
Dear Sirs,
The alleged parking charge dated 06/02/2025 was paid in full on
18/02/2025. Enclosed/attached are:
[indent] Bank statement extract (payer: [name], payee: G24 Ltd,
date 18/02/2025, amount £[ ], reference [xxxxxxxx])
G24 payment confirmation/receipt showing the same
reference.[/indent]
Your clients claim is therefore hopeless. Please confirm by
return that the claim will be discontinued.
Failing discontinuance within 7 days, the Defendant will apply
for strike-out under CPR 3.4(2)(a)/(b) and seek costs under CPR
27.14(2)(g) for unreasonable conduct.
Yours faithfully,
[full name][/quote]
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