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       #Post#: 84057--------------------------------------------------
       LBWF - Rolls Park Avenue E4, 01 - Parked in restricted street -
       No CCTV or Images on OCM
   DIR By: TheProfessor
       Date: August 4, 2025, 10:41 am
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       Hello,
       Parked in the parking bays on the side of 'Pizza Point' (GSV
       below) and in haste forgot to Pay by Phone. Narrowly avoided the
       car from being 'lifted' after darting out of nearby shop once
       being made aware that there was a vehicle about to be lifted by
       a local shopkeeper. Sprinted to said bay and asked 'Why are you
       lifting me'..
       The warden then proceeded to walk around the car and show part
       of the rear tyre that was out of the bay and on the 'single
       yellow' - again in haste and rushing around the driver didn't
       check whether the vehicle was completely in the bay.
       Yellow sticker PCN affixed to vehicle - Not sure if this has to
       be done before its lifted. In any case the contravention is 01 -
       Parked in a restricted street during prescribed hours. Currently
       still within the 14 days.
       Went to attempt to pay payment - but stopped short and thought
       lets have a look at the images/video - of which there isn't any
       that I could spot.. Is the PCN still valid?
       Best advise please..
       GSV:
  HTML https://maps.app.goo.gl/BH6Yiw34kLKQWnJz7
       PCN:
  HTML https://imgur.com/a/oH9nwk3
       Parking:
  HTML https://imgur.com/a/9sJTZqT
       Video:
  HTML https://imgur.com/a/MiG2eIK
       Thank You!
       #Post#: 84062--------------------------------------------------
       Re: LBWF - Rolls Park Avenue E4, 01 - Parked in restricted
       street - No CCTV or Images on OCM
   DIR By: stamfordman
       Date: August 4, 2025, 11:05 am
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       They don't need pictures to enforce parking PCNs and you were
       lucky to stop them taking the car, but they would have taken
       pics before doing so.
       Waltham Forest is getting a reputation as a tow happy council
       and this is a minor contravention but they are entitled to issue
       a PCN for this.
       As they don't have pics you could try and get this cancelled by
       arguing it was trivial but you can't show them your pic.
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       #Post#: 84063--------------------------------------------------
       Re: LBWF - Rolls Park Avenue E4, 01 - Parked in restricted
       street - No CCTV or Images on OCM
   DIR By: stamfordman
       Date: August 4, 2025, 11:09 am
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       Ok scrap that - they took 77 pics...
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       #Post#: 84065--------------------------------------------------
       Re: LBWF - Rolls Park Avenue E4, 01 - Parked in restricted
       street - No CCTV or Images on OCM
   DIR By: TheProfessor
       Date: August 4, 2025, 11:17 am
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       No idea why I cant see these pictures then  :-\
       So presumably - no successful chance of an appeal?
       Thanks.
       #Post#: 84068--------------------------------------------------
       Re: LBWF - Rolls Park Avenue E4, 01 - Parked in restricted
       street - No CCTV or Images on OCM
   DIR By: stamfordman
       Date: August 4, 2025, 11:21 am
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       WF's site is very slow - if you keep the evidence window open
       they will appear.
       I'd say you had a lucky escape and should pay the discount but
       let's check the signage and traffic order first.
       #Post#: 84093--------------------------------------------------
       Re: LBWF - Rolls Park Avenue E4, 01 - Parked in restricted
       street - No CCTV or Images on OCM
   DIR By: TheProfessor
       Date: August 4, 2025, 1:05 pm
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       --- Quote from: stamfordman link ---
       >
       > WF's site is very slow - if you keep the evidence window open
       they will appear.
       >
       > I'd say you had a lucky escape and should pay the discount but
       let's check the signage and traffic order first.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Okay - Do you need anything from me in order to do this?
       #Post#: 84097--------------------------------------------------
       Re: LBWF - Rolls Park Avenue E4, 01 - Parked in restricted
       street - No CCTV or Images on OCM
   DIR By: stamfordman
       Date: August 4, 2025, 1:20 pm
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       Looks like the line has a proper order and it's in the right
       place.
       We've seen a few predatory tows by WF - there would have been no
       traffic management purpose in impounding your car for one wheel
       outside that bay on a side road.
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       #Post#: 84099--------------------------------------------------
       Re: LBWF - Rolls Park Avenue E4, 01 - Parked in restricted
       street - No CCTV or Images on OCM
   DIR By: TheProfessor
       Date: August 4, 2025, 1:35 pm
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       So pay the discounted rate then I guess as the conclusion?
       #Post#: 84104--------------------------------------------------
       Re: LBWF - Rolls Park Avenue E4, 01 - Parked in restricted
       street - No CCTV or Images on OCM
   DIR By: H C Andersen
       Date: August 4, 2025, 3:53 pm
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       The back of the PCN pl.
       #Post#: 84108--------------------------------------------------
       Re: LBWF - Rolls Park Avenue E4, 01 - Parked in restricted
       street - No CCTV or Images on OCM
   DIR By: fraser.mitchell
       Date: August 4, 2025, 4:26 pm
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       It's what I call a money-grubbing PCN, but with your wheel on
       the yellow line, it's lawful, I'm afraid. If it had just been
       the rear of your car over the line, you could claim 'de
       minimis'. Mind you, having seen a 70s Cadillac Eldorado
       recently, the rear of the car projected about 4 feet beyond the
       rear wheels !
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