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Re: fake PCN recording or croydon council mistake ?!
DIR By: stamfordman
Date: August 4, 2025, 10:56 am
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If you want to challenge this PCN stick to this thread as the
evidence is already posted.
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Re: fake PCN recording or croydon council mistake ?!
DIR By: concoj
Date: August 7, 2025, 4:08 pm
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Ok I"LL, I thought I should start a new one to change the title.
What do think guys?
Advance Healthy School Street sign / No Left Turn warning sign
including times/days is missing.
I believe we had this in the past and we can win this one.
Councils are obliged to advise those restrictions, don’t you
think?
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Re: fake PCN recording or croydon council mistake ?!
DIR By: concoj
Date: August 7, 2025, 4:15 pm
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HTML https://imgur.com/a/1pUGxvb
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Re: fake PCN recording or croydon council mistake ?!
DIR By: Hippocrates
Date: August 7, 2025, 5:17 pm
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Amigo. I'll be back with a technical representation. Vale!
#Post#: 85273--------------------------------------------------
Re: fake PCN recording or croydon council mistake ?!
DIR By: concoj
Date: August 12, 2025, 4:29 am
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Thanks so much for your willingness to help Hippocrates! I
really appreciate it.
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Re: fake PCN recording or croydon council mistake ?!
DIR By: Hippocrates
Date: August 12, 2025, 10:42 am
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Send this fast.
1. The signage is unclear as the right hand one is facing the
wrong direction to be seen.
2. I make this collateral challenge against the validity of the
PCN as it is missing mandatory information as provided at Para.
4 (8 ) (v) of
HTML https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukla/2003/3/section/4/enacted
(v)that, if the penalty charge is not paid before the end of the
28 day period, an increased
charge may be payable.
Clearly, this refers to Para. 4 (8 ) (iii):
(iii)that the penalty charge must be paid before the end of the
period of 28 days beginning
with the date of the notice;
Therefore, it follows that the statement: If you fail to pay the
Penalty Charge or make representations before the end of a
period of 28 days beginning with the date of service of this
notice an increased charge of £240 may be payable. adds to the
lack of clarity by its omission. Even on its own, whether the
required information was included or not, it is also arguable
that it conflates the two periods using the word "or" which many
would view as being conjunctive. Furthermore, even if the
statement were to be interpreted disjunctively, there is still
no clarity due to the missing information.
In light of the above, I ask that the appeal be allowed.
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Re: fake PCN recording or croydon council mistake ?!
DIR By: concoj
Date: August 12, 2025, 8:40 pm
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Many thanks.
"Online representation against a Penalty Charge Notice receipt.
******* Please do not reply to this email *******
Dear Mr ...
Penalty Charge Notice Number: CR22907776
Vehicle Registration Number: NX18XAP
ACKNOWLEDGEMENT OF CORRESPONDENCE
Thank you for your recent correspondence regarding the issue of
the above penalty charge notice.
Please note that it will be logged to the relevant team for
investigation and they will respond in due course. The statutory
response times are 56 for formal representations and 90 days for
informal representations. Please note that the current amount
due will be held whilst we are dealing with the matter."
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Re: fake PCN recording or croydon council mistake ?!
DIR By: fraser.mitchell
Date: August 13, 2025, 3:53 am
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--- Quote from: concoj link ---
>
> Many thanks.
>
>
>
> "Online representation against a Penalty Charge Notice
receipt.
>
> ******* Please do not reply to this email *******
>
> Dear Mr ...
>
> Penalty Charge Notice Number: CR22907776
>
> Vehicle Registration Number: NX18XAP
>
> ACKNOWLEDGEMENT OF CORRESPONDENCE
>
> Thank you for your recent correspondence regarding the issue
of the above penalty charge notice.
>
> Please note that it will be logged to the relevant team for
investigation and they will respond in due course. The statutory
response times are 56 for formal representations and 90 days for
informal representations. Please note that the current amount
due will be held whilst we are dealing with the matter."
>
--- End Quote ---
The response times quoted are not statutory for the LLA & TfL
Act 2003 which the PCN was issued under. The 56 days applies to
formal reps under the Traffic Management Act 2004, and there is
no statutory limit in either legislation for responding to
informal representations, although most adjudicators would look
askance at any response over 90 days (3 months), on the grounds
of unfairness.
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Re: fake PCN recording or croydon council mistake ?!
DIR By: concoj
Date: September 15, 2025, 3:14 pm
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Rejected sorry Hippocrates
#Post#: 90092--------------------------------------------------
Re: fake PCN recording or croydon council mistake ?!
DIR By: mickR
Date: September 15, 2025, 3:32 pm
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not surprised but awaiting Hippos return for further
instructions
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