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#Post#: 83734--------------------------------------------------
53J - Kempton Road Junction - E6 - Failing to comply .. entering
a pedestrian zone(camera enforcement)
DIR By: chand
Date: August 1, 2025, 12:13 pm
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Hi All,
Newham council:
Received 2 PCNs, one for entering a school zone and another for
turning into another road while leaving at the same
time(minute). There is a restriction not to enter on certain
times on both sides of the school.
PCNs :
PN63452708 :
15:11 ,
53J - Kempton Road Junction - E6 - Failing to comply with a
restriction on vehicles entering a pedestrian zone(camera
enforcement)
Kempton Road/Hall Road
PN63452719 :
15:11 ,
53J - Kempton Road Junction - E6 - Failing to comply with a
restriction on vehicles entering a pedestrian zone(camera
enforcement)
Altemor Avenue/Kempton Road
It is a new restriction in my local area, I didn't know. However
not prepared to pay 2 PCNs for the same entry/exit.
What shall I do, please advise.
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#Post#: 83754--------------------------------------------------
Re: 53J - Kempton Road Junction - E6 - Failing to comply ..
entering a pedestrian zone(camera enforcement)
DIR By: fraser.mitchell
Date: August 1, 2025, 4:47 pm
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The rapacity and venality of London councils never ceases to
astonish, does it ?
Both PCNs have the same contravention of entering a pedestrian
zone, and at the same time ! But you entered at one end, and
exited at the other, so there was only one contravention. So for
the PCN at the location where you left the zone, you should
submit representations referring to the other PCN and point out
that you only entered once, therefore the second PCN must be
cancelled.
As to the first PCN, their photos would seem to show you driving
past two clear "Flying Motorbike" signs head-on. Is this the
case ? If so, then this will be difficult to overturn. Were you
blindly following a satnav ? GSV is not up-to-date here, (March
2022), so doesn't show the signs, making it difficult to see if
there is a problem with sign visibility. Any reason at all why
you missed seeing them ? This is a 20 mph road as far as I know,
so slow enough to see and read the times on the signs, I would
have thought.
Probably the best approach is to submit reps against both PCNs
in a single letter, pointing out the fact that there was only a
single contravention, indeed the time on both PCNs is identical.
Say that you consider two PCNs for a single offence is grossly
disproportionate and also against common law that one can only
be punished once for a single offence. State that you are
prepared to pay the first PCN at the discounted rate.
Other than the above, there may be a technical appeal argument
based on Newham mismanagement of the enforcement process. This
is totally unrelated to the contravention, but has one appeals
recently. The downside is that these are only considered at
London Tribunals with the full PCN penalty in play. One of our
contributors may come on here and suggest such an appeal.
#Post#: 83761--------------------------------------------------
Re: 53J - Kempton Road Junction - E6 - Failing to comply ..
entering a pedestrian zone(camera enforcement)
DIR By: chand
Date: August 2, 2025, 12:19 am
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Can someone make an appeal on behalf of me ?
I used to travel in this road all the time but seems not at this
time "3:11". The restrictions is only during school days in the
morning and evening for an hour.
On exit I could have gone straight by not taking the right turn
into Kempton road if I had seen the restriction sign.
We have to appeal on/or before Monday.
I request someone to come forward and do the appeal.
#Post#: 83775--------------------------------------------------
Re: 53J - Kempton Road Junction - E6 - Failing to comply ..
entering a pedestrian zone(camera enforcement)
DIR By: fraser.mitchell
Date: August 2, 2025, 4:39 am
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You as the owner must submit representations. Here is some text
as a suggestion
Dear Sirs
Re PCNs PN63452708 and PN63452719
I recently received the above two PCNs. They are both for the
same date, and timed at the same time of 15.11, which one would
think impossible unless one owned a time machine. In addition
they also allege the same contravention of "Failing to comply
with a restriction on vehicles entering a pedestrian zone". A
brief study of the two PCNs show that they have both been issued
for the same contravention. PCN PN63452708 shows my car entering
the pedestrian zone, and PCN PN63452719 shows my car exiting the
same pedestrian zone. As you are no doubt aware only a single
penalty can be demanded for a single contravention. Therefore as
only a single contravention occurred, I request that PCN
PN63452719 be cancelled.
Yours faithfully
#Post#: 83895--------------------------------------------------
Re: 53J - Kempton Road Junction - E6 - Failing to comply ..
entering a pedestrian zone(camera enforcement)
DIR By: chand
Date: August 3, 2025, 10:41 am
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Thanks, Appealed as you suggested. Let youknow when the council
comes back.
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