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#Post#: 83407--------------------------------------------------
NCP Birmingham Airport drop off - Lease car
DIR By: Benj192
Date: July 30, 2025, 3:40 am
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I have just been made aware that my vehicle has received a
parking ticket at the NCP free drop off area at Birmingham
Airport - You get 10 minutes free but they have provided photos
of my vehicle leaving 13 minutes after entering.
I am not the registered keeper of the vehicle - My employer
leases it as a company car and I am the only driver of it. The
lease company has forwarded the parking charge to my employer
but it looks like this is still addressed to the lease company,
though I do not know at this stage if they have notified NCP who
the driver was at the time.
It looks like the lease company did not send us the parking
charge when it first arrived and they are only just making us
aware now that they have received a final reminder from NCP.
Any advice would be greatly appreciated.
#Post#: 83410--------------------------------------------------
Re: NCP Birmingham Airport drop off - Lease car
DIR By: Dave65
Date: July 30, 2025, 4:31 am
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The lease company should inform NCP that it is a lease car and
give the details of your employer to them, so a PPN could be
sent to your employer. This ends their responsibility to the
charge.
#Post#: 83411--------------------------------------------------
Re: NCP Birmingham Airport drop off - Lease car
DIR By: DWMB2
Date: July 30, 2025, 4:34 am
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Is the vehicle subsequently leased to you by your employer (like
a salary sacrifice, or employment benefit etc.)? If so, the
process should be roughly:
- The lease company should name your employer as the hirer of
the vehicle. At this point, they will receive a notice addressed
to them.
- Your employer can appeal directly (we can advise) or they then
name you as the person hiring the vehicle from them, and you can
appeal
#Post#: 83429--------------------------------------------------
Re: NCP Birmingham Airport drop off - Lease car
DIR By: Benj192
Date: July 30, 2025, 6:02 am
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--- Quote from: DWMB2 link ---
>
> Is the vehicle subsequently leased to you by your employer
(like a salary sacrifice, or employment benefit etc.)? If so,
the process should be roughly:
>
>
- The lease company should name your employer as the hirer of
the vehicle. At this point, they will receive a notice addressed
to them.
>
- Your employer can appeal directly (we can advise) or they then
name you as the person hiring the vehicle from them, and you can
appeal
>
>
--- End Quote ---
Thank you. Yes, the car is leased to me by my employer as an
employment benefit and the BIK is deducted from my monthly pay.
On point 2, I think my employer may be hesitant/unwilling to
appeal the charge, so I think I will stand the best chance of
them naming me as the person hiring the vehicle and appealing it
myself.
I assume if they do name me, I will receive a notice addressed
to myself - How do I best go about appealing this once received?
#Post#: 83430--------------------------------------------------
Re: NCP Birmingham Airport drop off - Lease car
DIR By: jfollows
Date: July 30, 2025, 6:06 am
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When you receive a Notice to Hirer in your name from the parking
company, it’s important to note what other documents accompany
it. It’s likely there will be none, in which case you appeal on
the basis that as hirer you can not be liable for the actions of
the driver. You will get advice here, so come back and be clear
about exactly what you receive.
Sections 13 and 14 of
HTML https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2012/9/schedule/4
give the
legislation and its requirements.
#Post#: 83432--------------------------------------------------
Re: NCP Birmingham Airport drop off - Lease car
DIR By: DWMB2
Date: July 30, 2025, 6:10 am
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Even if they do supply all the requisite documents, Birmingham
Airport isn't relevant land.
#Post#: 83437--------------------------------------------------
Re: NCP Birmingham Airport drop off - Lease car
DIR By: Benj192
Date: July 30, 2025, 6:24 am
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Thank you for your help, I will ask my employer / the lease
company to name me as the hirer and then wait and see what I
receive in the post.
I will update this thread once the letter comes through.
#Post#: 83445--------------------------------------------------
Re: NCP Birmingham Airport drop off - Lease car
DIR By: b789
Date: July 30, 2025, 7:05 am
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Out of interest, is anyone else permitted to drive the car you
have been issued? For example, are you allowed to use it for non
work purposes on days off? If so, can your partner or other
member of your family drive the vehicle?
I ask because you MUST avoid your employer stating that you were
the driver? Unless you are the exclusive driver of the vehicle,
there could be a problem in what is otherwise a very easy PCN to
get cancelled.
No one but you know who was the driver on the day. The lease
company certainly don't know and the Hirer (your employer) won't
know, unless you are the sole permitted driver.
#Post#: 83468--------------------------------------------------
Re: NCP Birmingham Airport drop off - Lease car
DIR By: Benj192
Date: July 30, 2025, 9:01 am
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--- Quote from: b789 link ---
>
> Out of interest, is anyone else permitted to drive the car you
have been issued? For example, are you allowed to use it for non
work purposes on days off? If so, can your partner or other
member of your family drive the vehicle?
>
> I ask because you MUST avoid your employer stating that you
were the driver? Unless you are the exclusive driver of the
vehicle, there could be a problem in what is otherwise a very
easy PCN to get cancelled.
>
> No one but you know who was the driver on the day. The lease
company certainly don't know and the Hirer (your employer) won't
know, unless you are the sole permitted driver.
>
--- End Quote ---
The car is kept in my possession at all times and I am allowed
to use the vehicle for personal use, as well as business use.
The car is covered by the company's group car insurance. My
employer has previously told me that anyone would be covered by
the insurance to drive the vehicle but would prefer I limit it
to myself and spouse only.
I have asked my employer to advise NCP that I am the hirer of
the vehicle - Hopefully they do this and do not indicate the
driver.
#Post#: 83479--------------------------------------------------
Re: NCP Birmingham Airport drop off - Lease car
DIR By: b789
Date: July 30, 2025, 9:32 am
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You are not the Hirer. You are the day to day Keeper. However,
your company, as the Hirer, can issue you a Letter of
Authorisation (LoA) to enable you to deal with the matter as the
day to day Keeper.
This can only be done if the Lease Company (Registered Keeper)
invokes PoFA Schedule 4, Paragraph 11 to transfer liability to
the Hirer (the company). This requires:
[indent]• A copy of the hire agreement.
• A statement of liability signed by or on behalf of the Hirer.
• A formal notification to the parking operator.[/indent]
Once they have done that, the operator must issue a Notice to
Hirer (NtH) to the company. Only once the company receive the
NtH in their name, can they then issue the LoA to you, as the
day to day Keeper of the vehicle to deal with the PCN.
Once liability is transferred, the company becomes the party the
operator must pursue. You, the employee (Day-to-Day Keeper),
have no standing unless the company provides a Letter of
Authority (LoA).
As the vehicle can be driven by anyone, they have no idea who
the driver was and the LoA should only refer to you as the day
to day keeper. I suggest you tell your company to issue you with
an LoA that contains the following once they receive the NtH in
their name:
--- Quote ---
> [Company Letterhead]
> [Company Name]
> [Company Address]
> [Company Registration Number]
>
> [Date]
>
> To Whom It May Concern,
>
> Re: Authority to Act – Parking Charge Notice [Insert PCN
Reference]
> Vehicle Registration: [Insert VRM]
>
> We confirm that [Employee Full Name], residing at [Employee
Address], is the authorised day-to-day keeper of the above
vehicle, which is leased by [Company Name] from [Lease Company
Name].
>
> The vehicle is assigned to the employee for both business and
personal use and remains in their possession at all times. As
the Hirer, we hereby authorise [Employee Full Name] to act on
behalf of [Company Name] in all matters relating to the above
Parking Charge Notice, including but not limited to:
>
> - Corresponding with the issuing parking operator
> - Submitting appeals or representations
> - Receiving and responding to further communications regarding
this matter
>
> This authority is granted solely for the purpose of resolving
the above Parking Charge Notice and remains valid until the
matter is concluded or revoked in writing.
>
> Signed,
>
> [Authorised Signatory Name]
> [Position]
> [Company Name]
> [Email Address]
> [Phone Number]
>
> [Signature]
--- End Quote ---
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