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#Post#: 83466--------------------------------------------------
Re: variable speed limit - 63 in 50 - question on evidence
DIR By: 666
Date: July 30, 2025, 8:51 am
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--- Quote from: Jakestar link ---
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> ok - I guess my point is that there is absolutely nothing in
the photos to conclusively prove to ME that I passed under that
exact gantry at 63mph. none of the photographs show this.
however if they don't have to then this is fine - ill accept the
(likely) 3 points.
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The photos provided are not necessarily evidential. You cannot
assume that you've seen all the evidence.
#Post#: 83471--------------------------------------------------
Re: variable speed limit - 63 in 50 - question on evidence
DIR By: NewJudge
Date: July 30, 2025, 9:10 am
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--- Quote ---
> I guess my point is that there is absolutely nothing in the
photos to conclusively prove to ME that I passed under that
exact gantry at 63mph.
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Vehicle speeds are measured by a radar device mounted on the
gantry support on the near side of the carriageway. When the
device detects a vehicle exceeding the posted speed limit a
photograph is taken of the vehicle. Since the camera is mounted
on the gantry, facing the direction in which the traffic is
travelling, the gantry will not be visible. This is the one
which identifies your car. This is all the police need to secure
a conviction. Your car will be identified, its speed will have
been measured by an approved device and you will have provided
the driver’s details.
However, another photograph is taken at the same time but taken
from a point prior to the gantry. This takes a photograph of the
speed limit displayed on the gantry at the time of the alleged
offence. At the time this is taken your car will have passed the
gantry, will be some way beyond it and it may or may not be
visible in this second photograph (very often not). Without this
the police could almost certainly still secure a conviction by
producing in evidence the records held by National Highways
which record the times that variable speed limits were imposed,
but the photograph makes that unnecessary.
If you look at those two photographs you will see annotations on
them which include the identity of the location (which will be
the same), the time they were taken (which will also be the
same), the time elapsed since the limit was imposed, the speed
recorded by the approved device together with an image of your
car
What further proof would you be looking for?)
#Post#: 83472--------------------------------------------------
Re: variable speed limit - 63 in 50 - question on evidence
DIR By: Jakestar
Date: July 30, 2025, 9:19 am
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none really - you've actually answered the question I had tbf.
i.e. how are cameras positioned and used given that only one
shows my actual car. but as I say - asked and answered....
guessing I don't have grounds for refuting this then, ill see
what COFP is offered.
#Post#: 83476--------------------------------------------------
Re: variable speed limit - 63 in 50 - question on evidence
DIR By: andy_foster
Date: July 30, 2025, 9:28 am
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--- Quote from: Jakestar link ---
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> sorry - I don't get the strawberry ref...is it because they
aren't consecutive but are all there....not sure...?
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Google is your friend
#Post#: 83528--------------------------------------------------
Re: variable speed limit - 63 in 50 - question on evidence
DIR By: mickR
Date: July 30, 2025, 6:15 pm
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or is it fwend?
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