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PCN for U-Turn – Hammersmith & Fulham
DIR By: traz
Date: July 29, 2025, 10:39 am
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I recently received a PCN from Hammersmith and Fulham Council
for making a U-turn. To be honest, I’ve made that same turn on
several occasions in the past and wasn’t aware that it had been
prohibited. It looks like they’ve recently installed a camera at
that location to enforce the restriction.
What would be the best approach to make a representation? Would
an appeal outlining the lack of adequate signage be a good
approach?
Any advice would be appreciated. Thanks
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Re: PCN for U-Turn – Hammersmith & Fulham
DIR By: stamfordman
Date: July 29, 2025, 11:10 am
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Where is this on Google Maps. It's not a complete U-turn. You
can clearly see the sign though.
HTML https://i.ibb.co/twyrgmH0/Get-Video3-ezgif-com-video-to-gif-converter.gif
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Re: PCN for U-Turn – Hammersmith & Fulham
DIR By: John U.K.
Date: July 29, 2025, 1:57 pm
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> Where is this on Google Maps
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That would be here (July 2024 - the no U-turn sign appears to be
later)
HTML https://maps.app.goo.gl/CBGRbesAUZ6NfH1HA
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Re: PCN for U-Turn – Hammersmith & Fulham
DIR By: traz
Date: July 29, 2025, 2:25 pm
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Yeah, the no u turn sign isn't on google maps yet.
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Re: PCN for U-Turn – Hammersmith & Fulham
DIR By: John U.K.
Date: July 29, 2025, 2:32 pm
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--- Quote from: traz link ---
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> Yeah, the no u turn sign isn't on google maps yet.
>
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Have the 'Ahead Only' arrows disappeared - it's not clear from
the video?
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Re: PCN for U-Turn – Hammersmith & Fulham
DIR By: stamfordman
Date: July 29, 2025, 2:53 pm
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The order for this is recent.
Road Traffic Acts
LONDON BOROUGH OF HAMMERSMITH AND FULHAM
ROAD TRAFFIC REGULATION ACT 1984
THE HAMMERSMITH AND FULHAM (PRESCRIBED ROUTES) (CONSOLIDATION)
AMENDMENT (NO. 1) ORDER 2024
1. NOTICE IS HEREBY GIVEN that the London Borough of Hammersmith
and Fulham made the above-mentioned Orders under the powers
granted by sections 6 and 124 of, and Part IV of Schedule 9 to,
the Road Traffic Regulation Act 1984 as amended.
2. The general effect of the Order, which will come into
operation on 18th September 2024, will be to introduce a banned
U-turn restriction in New King’s Road, between the north-eastern
kerb-line of Harwood Road and the western kerb-line of
Wandsworth Bridge Road.
3. A copy of the Orders, the Councils statement of reasons for
making the Orders and documents giving more detailed particulars
of the Orders, can be inspected, by requesting copies in writing
until the end of a period of 6 weeks beginning with the date on
which the Orders are made, or as the case may be, the Council
decides not to make the Orders.
Parking Services, The Place Department, Town Hall Extension,
King Street, Hammersmith, W6 9JU or via email to
Traffic.Orders@lbhf.gov.uk.
4. If any person wishes to question the validity of the Order or
any of the provisions on the grounds that it or they are not
within the powers conferred by the Road Traffic Regulation Act
1984, or that any requirement of that Act or of any instrument
made under that Act has not been complied with, that person may,
within 6 weeks from the date on which the Order is made, apply
for the purpose to the High Court.
Dated this 11th day of September 2024
Masum Choudhury
Assistant Director of Transport
Highways, Parks and Waste
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Re: PCN for U-Turn – Hammersmith & Fulham
DIR By: Hippocrates
Date: July 29, 2025, 3:09 pm
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FGS. >:(
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Re: PCN for U-Turn – Hammersmith & Fulham
DIR By: traz
Date: July 29, 2025, 3:17 pm
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> [quote author=traz link=topic=7455.msg83360#msg83360
date=1753817127]
> Yeah, the no u turn sign isn't on google maps yet.
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Have the 'Ahead Only' arrows disappeared - it's not clear from
the video?
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It's really hard to tell, but I believe the sign is still there.
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Re: PCN for U-Turn – Hammersmith & Fulham
DIR By: Hippocrates
Date: July 29, 2025, 3:31 pm
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HTML https://www.bailii.org/ew/cases/EWHC/Admin/2014/560.html
This not a U turn AT ALL.
Technical argument:
HTML https://www.ftla.uk/civil-penalty-charge-notices-(councils-tfl-and-so-on)/3ij-box-jct-new-kings-rd-entering-and-stopping-in-a-box-junction-when-prohibited/msg83241/#msg83241
Case review:
HTML https://www.ftla.uk/civil-penalty-charge-notices-(councils-tfl-and-so-on)/pcnredbridge50u-performing-a-prohibited-turn-(no-u-turn)jct-of-high-rd-(ilford)-/msg49430/#msg49430
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Re: PCN for U-Turn – Hammersmith & Fulham
DIR By: LemonTootski
Date: July 29, 2025, 3:50 pm
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good lord, this is the exact same spot, (and almost same time)
as a PCN i got:
HTML https://www.ftla.uk/civil-penalty-charge-notices-(councils-tfl-and-so-on)/3ij-box-jct-new-kings-rd-entering-and-stopping-in-a-box-junction-when-prohibited/
It's a small world.
Except, I didn't do a u-turn!
Perhaps the council's low on its quota this month and needs to
dish out more taxes :)
Anyway, good luck - I'll peruse this thread with great interest
...
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