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7 PCNs from Birmingham city council - moved from Pepipoo
DIR By: bakiyo
Date: October 20, 2023, 3:58 am
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Hello everyone.
This is the transfer of the epic story of success from this very
long, 7 pages thread
HTML http://forums.pepipoo.com/index.php?showtopic=144652
Summed up story. I have received 7 PCN's from Birmingham city
council for not paying the clean air zone charge (please, don't
ask). However, due to council being very, very slow in
processing the court orders, and with the help of cp8759, Neil
B, and others, practically all PCN's has been dismissed (some
PCN were more than 9 months until they actually reached Traffic
Enforcement Centre).
As it stands now, only one, the very last PCN is still open, the
KW17059063. This PCN had revoking order issued at the end of
September 2022, and cp8759 has submitted representations to
Birmingham City Council on November 2022. Reason being, on
November 2022, Council claimed that I haven't requested revoking
order for this PCN, and therefore they will be enforcing it,
make it rain fire etc. I did, however had a paper copy of
revoking order, which has been submitted by cp8759, as evidence
that I did requested it, and it was granted at the end of
September (not sure how council was not aware of revoking orders
existence, more than month after its issue).
As you may guess, Birmingham City Council STILL HAVENT PROCESSED
IT! It's been almost a year now since representations been
submitted, and I was checking the PCN diligently, every week,
and it is still at £189 (just as it was before I submitted
documentation to TEC to request the revoking order). I assume
CP8759, who represents me, still haven't got response from
Council, but as he advised me, the longer they drag this, the
better it is for me.
So that's that. Once we bid farewell to pepipoo. My story will
remain here.
Thanks once again for everyone helping me with this case,
especially CP8759.
#Post#: 7842--------------------------------------------------
Re: 7 PCNs from Birmingham city council - moved from Pepipoo
DIR By: DancingDad
Date: October 20, 2023, 4:05 am
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I'd agree with CP...let sleeping dogs lie.
At the moment, you (CP) have done all the needful and the ball
is in Birmingham's court.
Chances are that this will simply hang about and go nowhere.
I've known this with Birmingham over the years, they don't
cancel but don't progress either.
Should they wake up and issue a new PCN, time is certainly on
your side, unjustified delays are a winner.
If they do summat really silly like trying to enforce a non
existent warrant... wow.
Just keep all your paperwork safe.
#Post#: 27042--------------------------------------------------
Re: 7 PCNs from Birmingham city council - moved from Pepipoo
DIR By: bakiyo
Date: June 21, 2024, 3:26 pm
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Hello Everyone!
Well, is it yearly, or maybe three quarterly updates?
Since my last update last October - nothing changed. The PCN
still appears as £189. I haven't got any letters, calls, or
emails.
Still playing this waiting game. However, I am moving the
address next month, would it be a good idea to email them and
ask (like I had to do before) to send any future correspondence
to this and that address? As I wouldn't like to get a surprise
visit from a bailiff, in case Birmingham council will go "Oh
sh*t, we totally forgot this guy" at some point in the future.
It has been over a year and a half since cp submitted the appeal
and over two years since the PCN issue.
Is there anything for me to do when moving the address (apart
from informing DVLA and getting V5C updated, learned it the hard
way)?
#Post#: 27070--------------------------------------------------
Re: 7 PCNs from Birmingham city council - moved from Pepipoo
DIR By: John U.K.
Date: June 22, 2024, 1:25 am
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Is there anything for me to do when moving the address (apart
from informing DVLA and getting V5C updated, learned it the hard
way)?
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Remember: just as updating driving licence does not update V5C,
nor does updating V5 update licence!
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Re: 7 PCNs from Birmingham city council - moved from Pepipoo
DIR By: fraser.mitchell
Date: June 22, 2024, 5:48 am
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--- Quote from: John U.K. link ---
>
> Is there anything for me to do when moving the address (apart
from informing DVLA and getting V5C updated, learned it the hard
way)?
>
> Remember: just as updating driving licence does not update
V5C, nor does updating V5 update licence!
>
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And also tell the council that you have moved to a new address,
and requesting that all future correspondence related to the PCN
be sent there.
#Post#: 27097--------------------------------------------------
Re: 7 PCNs from Birmingham city council - moved from Pepipoo
DIR By: H C Andersen
Date: June 22, 2024, 6:54 am
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As you can no longer let sleeping dogs lie, then IMO deal with
it head-on.
Dear Sir,
PCN ********** Date of Issue *****
Despite the time which has expired since TEC revoked your OfR in
respect of the above, I note that it still remains live on your
books. As I am soon to move house, I am therefore obliged to
notify you of this change which is as follows:
Wef ***** amend ***** to read *******.
Even better would be for the council to put this saga to bed and
formally cancel the PCN.
YF
#Post#: 27281--------------------------------------------------
Re: 7 PCNs from Birmingham city council - moved from Pepipoo
DIR By: ivanleo
Date: June 23, 2024, 11:08 am
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I agree with [member=428]H C Andersen[/member] and that will
hopefully be the end of the matter. It's been long enough that
any attempt by the council to pursue this further should be seen
as an abuse of process by the Traffic Penalty Tribunal.
#Post#: 27282--------------------------------------------------
Re: 7 PCNs from Birmingham city council - moved from Pepipoo
DIR By: Dave Green
Date: June 23, 2024, 11:16 am
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--- Quote from: bakiyo link ---
> Is there anything for me to do when moving the address (apart
from informing DVLA and getting V5C updated, learned it the hard
way)?
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Don't forget to inform your motor insurers of the change of
address and the date this will apply from prior to actually
moving as the last thing you want is to have to make a claim and
having it declined due to not informing them of the change and
possibly paying any increased premium.
#Post#: 27285--------------------------------------------------
Re: 7 PCNs from Birmingham city council - moved from Pepipoo
DIR By: Fluffykins
Date: June 23, 2024, 11:22 am
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Plus: make sure you have mail forwarding set up with Royal Mail
to make sure stuff addressed to your old address gets sent to
the new one. Costs but a good insurance.
#Post#: 30491--------------------------------------------------
Re: 7 PCNs from Birmingham city council - moved from Pepipoo
DIR By: bakiyo
Date: July 20, 2024, 3:27 am
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Hello everyone,
Thanks for your responses.
I have updated the V5 documents and my driver's license online
(so much easier now) and received copies with the new address.
I also sent the Birmingham council contact form requesting "any
and all corresponding PCN reference xxxxxxxx, to go to a new
address provided below"
Oh, I also updated my car and even home insurance address (both
come from tesco).
I believe I ticked all the boxes (including mail forwarding).
Thanks for the advice!
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