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       #Post#: 83003--------------------------------------------------
       ANPR barrier entry exit but charges shown ONLY inside car park
   DIR By: grumpy1
       Date: July 27, 2025, 2:59 pm
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       I went to a Council-run car park today at a reservoir.  The
       approach road was littered with signs about no parking being
       allowed on the road or verges.  There were big signs about ANPR
       and paying on exit.  Signs saying how the ANPR worked and so on.
       Despite all this there were no signs on the approach or outside
       the enclosed car park stating what the charges actually were.
       Only after I had passed through the barrier and was absolutely
       committed to parking did I see any signs indicating the charges.
       And there was no way out without paying.
       I'm sure I read about this sort of thing some years ago and that
       the charges are quite improper.  Could anyone point me in the
       right direction please?
       Grumpy1
       #Post#: 83362--------------------------------------------------
       Re: ANPR barrier entry exit but charges shown ONLY inside car
       park
   DIR By: grumpy1
       Date: July 29, 2025, 2:35 pm
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       Update:
       The car park operator (the Council) has said it has refunded the
       car park fee (£3) but in doing so managed to avoid accepting
       that there should have been a notification of the charges before
       the driver commits to going through the barrier, instead telling
       me that there is a fifteen minute grace period for free exit and
       I should have just left.
       #Post#: 83364--------------------------------------------------
       Re: ANPR barrier entry exit but charges shown ONLY inside car
       park
   DIR By: andy_foster
       Date: July 29, 2025, 2:43 pm
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       How could you "just leave" within the 15 minute grace period if,
       as you told us, there was no way out without paying?
       Clearly, somebody is telling lies.
       #Post#: 83409--------------------------------------------------
       Re: ANPR barrier entry exit but charges shown ONLY inside car
       park
   DIR By: baroudeur
       Date: July 30, 2025, 4:13 am
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       --- Quote from: andy_foster link ---
       >
       > How could you "just leave" within the 15 minute grace period
       if, as you told us, there was no way out without paying?
       >
       > Clearly, somebody is telling lies.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Or just lack of detail by the op?
       There are car parks where exiting within the free period doesn't
       require payment.
       #Post#: 83610--------------------------------------------------
       Re: ANPR barrier entry exit but charges shown ONLY inside car
       park
   DIR By: d612
       Date: July 31, 2025, 10:45 am
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       I've seen hospital carparks like that.
       As I recall barrier on entry which records your licence plate.
       Then...if over the free period you pay at a paymachine putting
       in your number plate details and then exit at the barrier which
       again records your numberplate on exit, checks for payment and
       lifts for you.
       Alternatively if you are within the free period you just drive
       up to the barrier and it opens for you....which I have been in
       all cases.
       I've no idea what happens if you don't pay, and then just drive
       up to the exist barrier - does it block your exit until you do?
       no idea.
       #Post#: 83614--------------------------------------------------
       Re: ANPR barrier entry exit but charges shown ONLY inside car
       park
   DIR By: 666
       Date: July 31, 2025, 11:07 am
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       --- Quote from: d612 link ---
       >
       > I've seen hospital carparks like that.
       > As I recall barrier on entry which records your licence plate.
       > Then...if over the free period you pay at a paymachine putting
       in your number plate details and then exit at the barrier which
       again records your numberplate on exit, checks for payment and
       lifts for you.
       > Alternatively if you are within the free period you just drive
       up to the barrier and it opens for you....which I have been in
       all cases.
       >
       > I've no idea what happens if you don't pay, and then just
       drive up to the exist barrier - does it block your exit until
       you do? no idea.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       If it doesn't block you, what other purpose could it possibly
       serve?
       #Post#: 83781--------------------------------------------------
       Re: ANPR barrier entry exit but charges shown ONLY inside car
       park
   DIR By: The Slithy Tove
       Date: August 2, 2025, 5:27 am
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       Pedant mode...
       --- Quote from: d612 link ---
       >
       > As I recall barrier on entry which records your licence plate.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       There is no such thing in the UK. US license (sic) plates are
       literally that, as they include "tabs" with the month and year
       on them to prove that you have paid the license fee for the
       vehicle for that year. That is not the case for plates in the
       UK.
       /Pedant mode
       #Post#: 83784--------------------------------------------------
       Re: ANPR barrier entry exit but charges shown ONLY inside car
       park
   DIR By: Southpaw82
       Date: August 2, 2025, 6:01 am
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       --- Quote from: The Slithy Tove link ---
       >
       > Pedant mode...
       > [quote author=d612 link=topic=7431.msg83610#msg83610
       date=1753976721]
       > As I recall barrier on entry which records your licence plate.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       There is no such thing in the UK. US license (sic) plates are
       literally that, as they include "tabs" with the month and year
       on them to prove that you have paid the license fee for the
       vehicle for that year. That is not the case for plates in the
       UK.
       /Pedant mode
       [/quote]
       Thank you!
       Neither is “license” a noun.
       #Post#: 83871--------------------------------------------------
       Re: ANPR barrier entry exit but charges shown ONLY inside car
       park
   DIR By: baroudeur
       Date: August 3, 2025, 6:29 am
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       --- Quote from: Southpaw82 link ---
       >
       > [quote author=The Slithy Tove
       link=topic=7431.msg83781#msg83781 date=1754130426]
       > Pedant mode...
       > [quote author=d612 link=topic=7431.msg83610#msg83610
       date=1753976721]
       > As I recall barrier on entry which records your licence plate.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       There is no such thing in the UK. US license (sic) plates are
       literally that, as they include "tabs" with the month and year
       on them to prove that you have paid the license fee for the
       vehicle for that year. That is not the case for plates in the
       UK.
       /Pedant mode
       [/quote]
       Thank you!
       Neither is “license” a noun.
       [/quote]
       License is a noun in US English hence the (sic) after it in ST's
       post.
       #Post#: 83872--------------------------------------------------
       Re: ANPR barrier entry exit but charges shown ONLY inside car
       park
   DIR By: andy_foster
       Date: August 3, 2025, 6:38 am
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       Doesn't count if it's not in italics
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