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Re: PCN issued 60 days after bus gate contravention by
Southampton City Council
DIR By: catnip
Date: September 27, 2025, 9:30 am
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--- Quote from: volvo2025 link ---
>
> Thanks for the useful responses guys. Unfortunately I forgot
all about this until today.
>
> I have visited their Southampton website in attempt to pay and
seen the fee is now £75 despite the letter stating that the fee
will not increase until 28 days after the rejection of
representations was served.
>
> The notice was served on the 1st of September, today is the
28th.
>
> I’ve tried to phone the council but they are closed.
>
> Any advice on what to do now?
>
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Take a screenshot showing the dates and fee so that you have
this information as it may be of use later.
#Post#: 91733--------------------------------------------------
Re: PCN issued 60 days after bus gate contravention by
Southampton City Council
DIR By: RichardW
Date: September 27, 2025, 9:34 am
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Hopefully you are still in time to lodge an appeal with the
tribunal, so do it ASAP - no brainer if it's now at the full
penalty anyway. You have the original delay (you need the
feedback from DVLA - in the other recent case, Southampton said
they had applied within the window, but there was no record at
DVLA, which rather undermines their case...) plus now they
appear to have overstepped the mark in hiking the charge.
#Post#: 91734--------------------------------------------------
Re: PCN issued 60 days after bus gate contravention by
Southampton City Council
DIR By: volvo2025
Date: September 27, 2025, 9:34 am
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I’ve just don’t that as well as email the council back asking
for:
* the evidence to support their claim as detailed in a post
above
* explaining that I had tried to pay but the fee on their
website is wrong, I called but the office is closed till Monday
which is too late
I will shortly send out the DVLA SAR.
I was ready to cough up on this one lads but they’ve pissed me
off again!
I’m guessing that since I’ve left it so late, the tribunal is
the only option left?
#Post#: 91738--------------------------------------------------
Re: PCN issued 60 days after bus gate contravention by
Southampton City Council
DIR By: volvo2025
Date: September 27, 2025, 9:53 am
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Tribunal submitted
#Post#: 91740--------------------------------------------------
Re: PCN issued 60 days after bus gate contravention by
Southampton City Council
DIR By: Enceladus
Date: September 27, 2025, 9:57 am
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01/09/2025 = Mon = Date of issue of Notice of Rejection
03/09/2025 = Wed = Deemed date of service of NoR and day 1 of 28
day relevant period
30/09/2025 = Tues = Day 28 of 28 relevant period and last day to
pay at discount (as per NoR) or to submit an appeal to the TPT
01/10/2025 = Wed = 1st possible day to issue a Charge
Certificate.
The offer to accept the discount rate for 28 days is unusual.
Normally it would be 14. So what payment is required online
right now? Actually I checked myself and it's £70 which is
incorrect with reference to the NoR, should still be £35. Please
take a time-stamped screenshot.
Personally I would register an appeal with the TPT, put detailed
submission to follow in the summary evidence box. And request a
telephone hearing rather than a decision on the papers.
So we have a PCN served out of time and no explanation. And an
incorrect demand for money on the Council website
Please send the SAR to the DVLA and post up the response.
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Re: PCN issued 60 days after bus gate contravention by
Southampton City Council
DIR By: volvo2025
Date: September 27, 2025, 9:59 am
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Thanks for that very detailed reply Enceladus.
I had submitted my tribunal application moments before your
post. Is it too late to ask for a telephone hearing now?
#Post#: 91746--------------------------------------------------
Re: PCN issued 60 days after bus gate contravention by
Southampton City Council
DIR By: volvo2025
Date: September 27, 2025, 10:05 am
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I've just noticed they've spelled my name wrong in the original
PCN too...
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Re: PCN issued 60 days after bus gate contravention by
Southampton City Council
DIR By: Enceladus
Date: September 27, 2025, 10:24 am
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How wrong? Completely different or just one letter?
Find the V5c for the car. Does the name and address on that
agree with the PCN?
And yes, you should be able to change the hearing type to a
telephone hearing.
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Re: PCN issued 60 days after bus gate contravention by
Southampton City Council
DIR By: volvo2025
Date: September 27, 2025, 10:26 am
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ah it does agree with the V5C. an I (i) replaced with an L (l) I
suppose the dealer couldn't read my handwriting. I didn't even
notice this till now either
#Post#: 91751--------------------------------------------------
Re: PCN issued 60 days after bus gate contravention by
Southampton City Council
DIR By: Enceladus
Date: September 27, 2025, 10:31 am
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--- Quote from: volvo2025 link ---
>
> ah it does agree with the V5C. an I (i) replaced with an L (l)
I suppose the dealer couldn't read my handwriting. I didn't even
notice this till now either
>
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I don't expect the misspelling will help then. The Adjudicator
will say it's done to your negligence in not checking the V5c
when you first got it.
On the subject of the V5c, what's the docref date? It's down at
the bottom of the details page
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