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       #Post#: 16351--------------------------------------------------
       Re:  NTO Newham 01a blue badge
   DIR By: Enceladus
       Date: February 27, 2024, 4:12 am
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       --- Quote from: Fazzy link ---
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       > Thank you to cp8759 for his kind offer of representation.
       Before deciding to accept the paid help, I wanted to know if the
       chances of a win is possible with self representation on the
       hearing date? I guess if the chances are slim then I have to
       seek help from an experienced member as the $130 fee would be
       much harder to manage. I feel partly responsible for giving my
       sister false hope that this case can be won at the tribunal
       stage hence the forfeit of the discounted rate so please can I
       have honest advice on what the best option would be. I would
       love to win this without having to get my sister to pay anything
       if that's possible!
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       > Thanks.
       >
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       "paid help". I don't believe cp8759 is expecting a fee for
       representing you. A charitable donation at your discretion
       perhaps.
       #Post#: 16408--------------------------------------------------
       Re:  NTO Newham 01a blue badge
   DIR By: Fazzy
       Date: February 27, 2024, 12:22 pm
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       Thank you H C Andersen. That has put my mind at ease.
       [member=38]Enceladus[/member] - It was a paid service offered as
       I was feeling nervous to do it myself. But I'm feeling more
       confident to go it alone now thanks to all the advice. Thanks
       [member=1]cp8759[/member] for looking at the evidence for me.
       #Post#: 16421--------------------------------------------------
       Re:  NTO Newham 01a blue badge
   DIR By: ivanleo
       Date: February 27, 2024, 5:18 pm
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       To be honest the basic point is very straightforward: it's a
       waiting restriction, not a loading restriction, so you can park
       with a blue badge. The relevant provision is regulation 8 of The
       Local Authorities' Traffic Orders (Exemptions for Disabled
       Persons) (England) Regulations 2000
  HTML https://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/2000/683/regulation/8/made<br
       />and it's a simple enough point that you should be OK on your
       own.
       The authority's submissions about a blue badge being only
       relevant where parking isn't prohibited is the most brain-dead
       submission I've ever seen: if parking isn't prohibited, anyone
       can park even without a blue badge.
       #Post#: 16831--------------------------------------------------
       Re:  NTO Newham 01a blue badge
   DIR By: Fazzy
       Date: March 5, 2024, 8:38 am
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       I just wanted to update on the hearing: I'm pleased to say the
       adjudicator (Mr Teper) decided to cancel the fine but not on the
       grounds of incorrect code. He read out the codes 01a and
       insisted it was the right one issued. He instead allowed it on
       the basis that the terms were not clearly displayed and it could
       be confusing to someone parking. He asked me lots of questions
       about if I knew I was not allowed to park there or if I read the
       terms because the terms were clear on paper apparently. I
       highlighted the deminis point about being 30cm over the
       restriction and he also picked up on the terrible spelling
       mistake on the lamppost etc. I also pointed out the long time
       between the NTO being served which he took on board.
       Anyway I'm just happy its over with. Thank you to everyone for
       your help over this 11 month on this PCN.
       #Post#: 16894--------------------------------------------------
       Re:  NTO Newham 01a blue badge
   DIR By: Pastmybest
       Date: March 6, 2024, 5:26 am
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       good work well done for sticking with it.
       this case does bring up something that bothers me. That being
       the prevalence of experts taking on cases but taking them off
       the forum. In this case a charge for helping was requested but
       the Op felt they were not in a position to pay it.
       IMO if an expert is to charge for their help or representation
       this should be made clear whilst the case is still on the forum,
       they can then continue to offer help if they wish but also
       another expert who does not wish to charge a fee would also be
       able to pick up the case as a representative before as in this
       case it was to late
       #Post#: 17030--------------------------------------------------
       Re:  NTO Newham 01a blue badge
   DIR By: Hippocrates
       Date: March 8, 2024, 2:36 pm
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       --- Quote from: Pastmybest link ---
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       > good work well done for sticking with it.
       >
       > this case does bring up something that bothers me. That being
       the prevalence of experts taking on cases but taking them off
       the forum. In this case a charge for helping was requested but
       the Op felt they were not in a position to pay it.
       >
       > IMO if an expert is to charge for their help or representation
       this should be made clear whilst the case is still on the forum,
       they can then continue to offer help if they wish but also
       another expert who does not wish to charge a fee would also be
       able to pick up the case as a representative before as in this
       case it was to late
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Yes: well done for the perseverance and not joining The Mugged
       Club.
       I do not charge, and neither does one other member;  rather, if
       won, I invite the OP to make a donation to my charity, The
       Princess Alice Hospice.  Most people offer to reimburse my
       travel fare.
       Regarding taking the case off forum, I do this merely for the
       reason that I do not want prying eyes to see the arguments.
       But, I take your points. :)
       #Post#: 17032--------------------------------------------------
       Re:  NTO Newham 01a blue badge
   DIR By: Pastmybest
       Date: March 8, 2024, 4:12 pm
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       Charging or not is not the issue. I do not charge and only if an
       Op offers do i ask that they make a donation Always to a
       children's hospice but if they have a favorite then that is
       fine. I have suggested a different worthy cause to one OP which
       they were happy to do.
       To me the OP should know from the start, and whilst i take your
       point re prying eyes if an Op is not happy to pay in most cases
       our combined knowledge and experience is always going to be of
       benefit
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