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PCN - Estate Parking Wing Security Limits Haringey
DIR By: iispartan
Date: July 26, 2025, 10:58 am
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I initially thought this was a private PCN, but apparently this
is a council PCN managed by Wing.
The driver parked in an estate, and the PCN was issued on car
window.
See image of PCN below. I’ve read conflicting advice online with
regards to whether this should be appealed/paid. Can someone pls
advise?
Thanks
HTML https://imgur.com/a/tj9LMhl
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Re: PCN - Estate Parking Wing Security Limits Haringey
DIR By: John U.K.
Date: July 26, 2025, 11:18 am
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I am inclined to think it is private - it talks of Parking
Charge, not Penalty Charge, and the amounts are odd: £100
discounted to £60.
I would move this to the Private Parking Forum, but will wait
for others with knowledge of Haringey's devious parking
practices.
Just checking Haringey's site, and found this
HTML https://www.haringey.gov.uk/housing/council-tenants/estate-parking-and-garages/parking-housing-estates/estate-parking-consultation
So Haringey have out-sourced council estate parking, but will be
bringing it in-house.
So have moved this to Private Parking.
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Re: PCN - Estate Parking Wing Security Limits Haringey
DIR By: H C Andersen
Date: July 26, 2025, 11:44 am
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This is a private parking issue.
The use of the word Haringey and its format are deceitful, this
has nothing to do with Haringey Council (whose corporate logo
they are mimicking) as an Enforcement Authority acting under the
authority of the Traffic Management Act and regulations.
It also doesn't come under the umbrella of the Protection of
Freedoms Act 2012 whereby a registered keeper may be held liable
for the 'sins' of a driver because in order to avail themselves
of this right a creditor must satisfy conditions and in this
case they've fallen at the first hurdle because they,Wing
Security Limited, are not an Approved Operator of an Accredited
Trade Association.
Do not on any account contact them.
Do not try to explain anything to them.
Come back here if the registered keeper receives correspondence
on this matter.
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Re: PCN - Estate Parking Wing Security Limits Haringey
DIR By: b789
Date: July 27, 2025, 5:25 am
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You can safely ignore it. Nothing will come of it. Wing are not
a member of any accredited trade association and have no access
to the DVLA.
They have no idea who the driver or the Keeper is. Just ignore
it.
I recently submitted an FoI request to Haringey about this
company and the following is the confirmation received from
them:
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> Case reference: FOI/281
>
> 1. Ownership or Control
>
> a. Is the land at or near Miles Road, N8 where the sign is
located owned, leased or managed by Haringey Council?
>
> The section of Miles Road, N8 where the sign is located is
private land managed by Haringey Council
>
> b. If so, please provide the title reference and a description
of the Council’s legal interest in the land.
>
> The land in question is within the Council’s ownership under
Land Registry freehold title no. NGL487212.
>
> 2. Authority for Parking Enforcement
>
> a. Has Haringey Council entered into any contractual agreement
or memorandum of understanding with Wing Security Ltd for the
purposes of parking enforcement at this location?
>
> Wing Security Ltd are under contract with Haringey Council to
enforce parking on certain estates managed by Haringey Council,
as indicated by appropriate signs.
>
> b. If yes, please supply a copy of that contract or agreement,
redacted only where strictly necessary.
>
> A copy of the contract we have on file has been attached.
Please note that the contract has since been renewed and an
extension awarded.
>
> We are working with colleagues in strategic procurement, which
we will be able to provide in due course.
>
> 3. Use of Haringey Council Branding
>
> a. Has Wing Security Ltd been formally authorised to use the
Haringey Council logo or branding on parking signage?
>
> Yes.
>
> b. If so, when was that authorisation granted and for what
purpose?
>
> Wing were instructed to provide signs including the Haringey
Council logo in May 2022, for introduction from June 2022
following the incorporation of Homes for Haringey back into
Haringey Council.
>
> 4. DVLA Data Access
>
> a. Has Haringey Council authorised Wing Security Ltd to act on
its behalf in obtaining DVLA vehicle keeper data for the purpose
of issuing Parking Charge Notices (PCNs)?
>
> Wing Security Ltd are unable to access DVLA keeper
information.
>
> b. Does Haringey Council itself access DVLA data in relation
to alleged parking contraventions at Miles Road, N8? If so,
please confirm under what statutory powers.
>
> Haringey Council does not currently access DVLA data in
relation to alleged parking contraventions at Miles Road, N8.
>
> 5. Type of Enforcement
>
> a. Is parking enforcement at this location conducted under the
Traffic Management Act 2004, local byelaws, or via a private
civil contractual model?
>
> Parking Enforcement at this location is currently managed via
a private civil contractual model.
>
> If you are unhappy with how we have responded to your request,
you can ask us to conduct an Internal Review.
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