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#Post#: 82828--------------------------------------------------
I received a 'Single Justice Procedure' notice of two traffic of
fenses I didn't receive as I changed address
By: gladiator779 Date: July 26, 2025, 10:27 am
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So I just received the letter mentioning about x2 traffic
offenses:
[list]
[li]First: On 14/03/2025 at [CITY_2], having been required by or
on behalf of the Chief Officer of Police [LOCATION NAME}, failed
to give information relating to the identification of the driver
of a vehicle, namely [PLATE NUMBER], who was alleged to have
been guilty of an offence 'Contrary to section 172(3) of the
Road Traffic Act 1988 and Schedule 2 to the Road Traffic
Offenders Act 1988.'[/li]
[li]Second: This Offense carries Penalty Points On 10/02/2025 at
[CITY_1] drove a motor vehicle namely [PLATE NUMBER], on a road,
namely [NAME OF THE ROAD], at a speed exceeding 20 miles per
hour - 25MPH in contravention of a Local traffic Order, namely
[CITY NAME] City Council (Various Roads, Metropolitan District
of [CITY NAME]) (Speed Limits) (Citywide) Order 2025., 'Contrary
to the above Local Traffic Order and sections 84 and 89(1) of
the Road Traffic Regulation Act 1984 and Schedule 2 to the Road
Traffic Offenders Act 1988.' -
It's statement says "At 08:52 on 10/02/2025 at [ROAD], a motor
vehicle [DETAILS] activated a speed camera, travelling at 25
miles per hour, the legal limit being 20 miles per hour. A
combined Notice of Intended Prosecution/request under Section
172 of the Road Traffic Act 1988 was served on the defendant
within 14 days, requiring them to furnish details of the driver
at the time of the alleged offence, the defendant being the
registered keeper of the involved vehicle. This combined notice
was sent on 12/02/2025 and by the 14/03/2025 they had not
replied as required by the legislation to that request.[/li]
[/list]
As a background, I moved houses mid novemember 2024 and changed
my driver license address promptly. I didn't remember to change
it too on v5 address till 14/02/2025. I didn't receive any of
the above offenses on my current address and I suppose they were
sent to my previous one.
What is my legal situation? I'm applying soon for citizenship
and trying to avoid any negative marks at this important time.
I'm NHS doctor for 6 years and have clear records. I had only 3
points on my driver license 3+ years ago (SP30).
Finally, do I need a solicester for this or a good written plea
should be ok? Thanks in advance
#Post#: 82833--------------------------------------------------
Re: I received a 'Single Justice Procedure' notice of two traffi
c offenses I didn't receive as I changed address
By: NewJudge Date: July 26, 2025, 10:52 am
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Were you the driver at the time of the speeding allegation?
#Post#: 82834--------------------------------------------------
Re: I received a 'Single Justice Procedure' notice of two traffi
c offenses I didn't receive as I changed address
By: gladiator779 Date: July 26, 2025, 10:53 am
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Yes it was me.
#Post#: 82837--------------------------------------------------
Re: I received a 'Single Justice Procedure' notice of two traffi
c offenses I didn't receive as I changed address
By: NewJudge Date: July 26, 2025, 11:06 am
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Then you should respond to the SJPN by pleading not guilty to
both charges. In the ”mitigation” section you should offer to
plead guilty to speeding but only on the condition that the FtP
charge is dropped. This is a procedure well known to all court
users (prosecutors, magistrates and their legal advisors) and is
carried out up and down the land daily. I’ll refer to it as “the
deal”.
Before the pandemic it was necessary to attend court to
undertake this deal and speak to the prosecutor (the agreement
of the prosecutor is required as the court cannot accept it
without that agreement). However, during the pandemic most
courts accepted a written request to do the deal. Local police
prosecutors made an agreement with their courts that the
magistrates’ legal advisors could accept the deal. In some areas
this arrangement has carried on.
This will still see you with a speeding conviction but will
avoid the much more damaging conviction for Failing to Provide
Driver's details.
#Post#: 82839--------------------------------------------------
Re: I received a 'Single Justice Procedure' notice of two traffi
c offenses I didn't receive as I changed address
By: gladiator779 Date: July 26, 2025, 11:10 am
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Thanks a lot for the info and your time. Will follow this
advice.
#Post#: 85523--------------------------------------------------
Re: I received a 'Single Justice Procedure' notice of two traffi
c offenses I didn't receive as I changed address
By: gladiator779 Date: August 13, 2025, 9:37 am
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[member=97]NewJudge[/member] I plead not guilty however I
received now a letter asking me to present to the court and
bring evidence. Does this mean things are not going as expected
and I might be convicted at the end? Thanks.
#Post#: 85534--------------------------------------------------
Re: I received a 'Single Justice Procedure' notice of two traffi
c offenses I didn't receive as I changed address
By: JustLoveCars Date: August 13, 2025, 10:56 am
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[quote author=gladiator779 link=topic=7414.msg85523#msg85523
date=1755095840]
Does this mean things are not going as expected and I might be
convicted at the end? Thanks.
[/quote]
No... But it just means you'll have to attend court to perform
the plea bargain. (There is no evidence for you to submit - you
are offering to plead guilty to the underlying offences if they
will drop the s172 charges)
You may be able to seek out the prosecutor prior to your
hearing.
#Post#: 85551--------------------------------------------------
Re: I received a 'Single Justice Procedure' notice of two traffi
c offenses I didn't receive as I changed address
By: NewJudge Date: August 13, 2025, 11:55 am
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Unfortunately some courts have clerical staff who are not
properly trained to deal with things as they should be dealt
with.
In your case, the staff handling your case have probably been
trained to respond to a “not guilty” plea by sending out what
sounds like a standard letter that you have received.
As I said, some courts will require the driver’s attendance to
negotiate this arrangement and it’s simply their way of getting
you there.
#Post#: 85558--------------------------------------------------
Re: I received a 'Single Justice Procedure' notice of two traffi
c offenses I didn't receive as I changed address
By: gladiator779 Date: August 13, 2025, 12:17 pm
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Thanks a lot for the replies that’s really reassuring to know
and I hope it goes well! Thanks again.
#Post#: 97719--------------------------------------------------
Re: I received a 'Single Justice Procedure' notice of two traffi
c offenses I didn't receive as I changed address
By: gladiator779 Date: November 11, 2025, 11:42 am
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Hi just as a followup to this, the court agreed with the
suggestion instantly. Annoyingly I’m paying around £600 but I
got away with 3 points instead of a much worse outcome.
Thank you! [member=97]NewJudge[/member] !
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