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#Post#: 82756--------------------------------------------------
Tooting High St Bus Lane TFL
DIR By: cru1928
Date: July 25, 2025, 5:48 pm
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Hello All,
Looks like I have shot myself in the foot as I've already sent a
appeal letter However I have received a Bus Lane fine for being
in a Bus Lane on Tooting High Street.
For context, there were ongoing roadworks and there was a sign
to "Use bus lane" - I saw the sign up ahead and moved over to
the bus lane however was landed with a nice and hefty fine.
See video for context:
HTML https://vimeo.com/1104622747?share=copy
Original Letter:
HTML https://imgur.com/a/xWUwNkD
My Defence:
HTML https://imgur.com/a/ffNnjQc
TFL's appeal reply letter:
HTML https://imgur.com/a/HLa6LlK
Street View Link:
HTML https://maps.app.goo.gl/bAHUT18tseQ8VWnbA
Do I have any chance of appeal or should I just pay the reduced
fine in the window I have?
#Post#: 82762--------------------------------------------------
Re: Tooting High St Bus Lane TFL
DIR By: fraser.mitchell
Date: July 25, 2025, 7:18 pm
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OK, your video shows the roadworks, but you would seem not to
have captured the "Use Bus Lane" sign.
Their letter is the usual Fob-Off letter that totally fails to
consider your representations. TfL have, like all authorities
serving PCNs a duty to consider representations but here,
although repeating most of yours, then totally fails to respons
to them.
If it were me, I'd take them all the way to London Tribunals as
your evidence seems very strong, but sight of the sign would
make a slam-dunk win, I think.
So over to you
#Post#: 82773--------------------------------------------------
Re: Tooting High St Bus Lane TFL
DIR By: cru1928
Date: July 26, 2025, 2:45 am
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--- Quote from: Incandescent link ---
>
> OK, your video shows the roadworks, but you would seem not to
have captured the "Use Bus Lane" sign.
>
> Their letter is the usual Fob-Off letter that totally fails to
consider your representations. TfL have, like all authorities
serving PCNs a duty to consider representations but here,
although repeating most of yours, then totally fails to respons
to them.
>
> If it were me, I'd take them all the way to London Tribunals
as your evidence seems very strong, but sight of the sign would
make a slam-dunk win, I think.
>
> So over to you
>
--- End Quote ---
The "Use Bus Lane" sign is at 00:20 of the vimeo link :)
#Post#: 82781--------------------------------------------------
Re: Tooting High St Bus Lane TFL
DIR By: Hippocrates
Date: July 26, 2025, 3:43 am
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This is extrapolation of the urine. Wait for the Enforcement
Notice and I am happy to take care of this one. The most recent
last two they did not contest. If they push you all the way, we
may be looking at costs too - whether they DNC or not.
#Post#: 82798--------------------------------------------------
Re: Tooting High St Bus Lane TFL
DIR By: fraser.mitchell
Date: July 26, 2025, 6:33 am
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--- Quote from: cru1928 link ---
>
> [quote author=Incandescent link=topic=7405.msg82762#msg82762
date=1753489124]
> OK, your video shows the roadworks, but you would seem not to
have captured the "Use Bus Lane" sign.
>
> Their letter is the usual Fob-Off letter that totally fails to
consider your representations. TfL have, like all authorities
serving PCNs a duty to consider representations but here,
although repeating most of yours, then totally fails to respons
to them.
>
> If it were me, I'd take them all the way to London Tribunals
as your evidence seems very strong, but sight of the sign would
make a slam-dunk win, I think.
>
> So over to you
>
--- End Quote ---
The "Use Bus Lane" sign is at 00:20 of the vimeo link :)
[/quote]
Indeed yes, but this comes after you have driven in the bus lane
for some distance. Wasn't there a sign before you entered the
bus lane ? We have to cover all aspects here, although I think
Hippocrates has his foot on their neck as well. It's quite
clear, (even absolutely obvious), from your video that one had
to use the bus lane to proceed.
#Post#: 82805--------------------------------------------------
Re: Tooting High St Bus Lane TFL
DIR By: cruzer234
Date: July 26, 2025, 7:45 am
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To be honest - I moved into the bus lane as soon as I saw that
sign, perhaps a bit earlier than I should have
#Post#: 82806--------------------------------------------------
Re: Tooting High St Bus Lane TFL
DIR By: cruzer234
Date: July 26, 2025, 7:45 am
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--- Quote from: Incandescent link ---
>
> [quote author=cru1928 link=topic=7405.msg82773#msg82773
date=1753515903]
> [quote author=Incandescent link=topic=7405.msg82762#msg82762
date=1753489124]
> OK, your video shows the roadworks, but you would seem not to
have captured the "Use Bus Lane" sign.
>
> Their letter is the usual Fob-Off letter that totally fails to
consider your representations. TfL have, like all authorities
serving PCNs a duty to consider representations but here,
although repeating most of yours, then totally fails to respons
to them.
>
> If it were me, I'd take them all the way to London Tribunals
as your evidence seems very strong, but sight of the sign would
make a slam-dunk win, I think.
>
> So over to you
>
--- End Quote ---
The "Use Bus Lane" sign is at 00:20 of the vimeo link :)
[/quote]
Indeed yes, but this comes after you have driven in the bus lane
for some distance. Wasn't there a sign before you entered the
bus lane ? We have to cover all aspects here, although I think
Hippocrates has his foot on their neck as well. It's quite
clear, (even absolutely obvious), from your video that one had
to use the bus lane to proceed.
[/quote]
To be honest - I moved into the bus lane as soon as I saw that
sign, perhaps a bit earlier than I should have
#Post#: 82902--------------------------------------------------
Re: Tooting High St Bus Lane TFL
DIR By: Hippocrates
Date: July 27, 2025, 4:11 am
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Wait for the Enforcement Notice and I will draft a more
technical appeal against the PCN.
#Post#: 85951--------------------------------------------------
Re: Tooting High St Bus Lane TFL
DIR By: cruzer234
Date: August 16, 2025, 10:46 am
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Hope you are doing well - I’ve had the second notice served. May
I please request you to write up the second appeal notice?
Many thanks
#Post#: 85959--------------------------------------------------
Re: Tooting High St Bus Lane TFL
DIR By: Hippocrates
Date: August 16, 2025, 3:44 pm
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Which notice? PCN or EN?
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