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#Post#: 82645--------------------------------------------------
NIP for speeding received but no info
DIR By: Endorfin
Date: July 25, 2025, 6:24 am
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Posting this one on behalf of family member.
NIP for doing 46mph in a ???? zone, it doesn't say.
It doesn't say what kind of camera it was
The location is vague, the A548 Mostyn runs for many miles.
That stretch of road has various speed limits of 60, 40 and
including 20 and there are fixed speed cameras as well as
average speed cameras along that stretch. Mobile speed camera
vans sometimes.
Driver is a professional driver so strives for a clean licence
(no points in at least 35 years) and knows the road extremely
well so is quite surprised and puzzled by the alleged offence.
Driver is unable to know whether they were speeding or not if it
doesn't say what the limit was or giving a more precise
location.
If it was a 40mph limit then wouldn't 46 put it within the 10% +
2mph leeway guidelines some forces follow?
Before the driver sends off their details I said I'd consult
here 1st.
NIP was received within 14 days, to driver's partner who is the
registered keeper, returned forms naming the driver and new NIP
received today.
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#Post#: 82656--------------------------------------------------
Re: NIP for speeding received but no info
DIR By: Reentrant
Date: July 25, 2025, 7:16 am
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Re: "leeway" - prosecution begins at 10%+2 so a NIP for 46mph in
a 40 limit is to be expected.
#Post#: 82661--------------------------------------------------
Re: NIP for speeding received but no info
DIR By: NewJudge
Date: July 25, 2025, 7:52 am
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The A548 may run for many miles, but Mostyn is a fairly small
place and it seems the limit is 40mph in the bits I've looked
at, such as here:
HTML https://www.instantstreetview.com/@53.313316,-3.25993,278.41h,1.16p,1z,ls7Gxkt0AegX5zVXoqN-jA
Whether the driver can say they were speeding is not relevant at
present. The recipient of the request for driver's details must
respond to it by naming the driver at the time and place
mentioned.
#Post#: 82666--------------------------------------------------
Re: NIP for speeding received but no info
DIR By: JustLoveCars
Date: July 25, 2025, 8:16 am
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--- Quote from: Endorfin link ---
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> It doesn't say what kind of camera it was
>
--- End Quote ---
It doesn't need to.
Perhaps, this camera:
HTML https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@53.3059488,-3.2461516,3a,75y,289.08h,94.76t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1shOfN8B_lVuyLestp97oZrQ!2e0!6shttps:%2F%2Fstreetviewpixels-pa.googleapis.com%2Fv1%2Fthumbnail%3Fcb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile%26w%3D900%26h%3D600%26pitch%3D-4.761013785731549%26panoid%3DhOfN8B_lVuyLestp97oZrQ%26yaw%3D289.07895269520174!7i16384!8i8192?entry=ttu&g_ep=EgoyMDI1MDcyMi4wIKXMDSoASAFQAw%3D%3D
HTML https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@53.3059488,-3.2461516,3a,75y,289.08h,94.76t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1shOfN8B_lVuyLestp97oZrQ!2e0!6shttps:%2F%2Fstreetviewpixels-pa.googleapis.com%2Fv1%2Fthumbnail%3Fcb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile%26w%3D900%26h%3D600%26pitch%3D-4.761013785731549%26panoid%3DhOfN8B_lVuyLestp97oZrQ%26yaw%3D289.07895269520174!7i16384!8i8192?entry=ttu&g_ep=EgoyMDI1MDcyMi4wIKXMDSoASAFQAw%3D%3D
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Re: NIP for speeding received but no info
DIR By: baroudeur
Date: July 25, 2025, 10:07 am
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Doesn't the document heading 'GoSafe' and the reference to
'Safty Camera Unit' indicate it was a camera van?
#Post#: 82700--------------------------------------------------
Re: NIP for speeding received but no info
DIR By: d612
Date: July 25, 2025, 11:05 am
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Not necessarily
The Welsh GoSafe campaign encompasses all camera types across
all of Wales.
HTML https://www.gosafe.org/about-us/
HTML https://www.gosafe.org/camera-map/
Zoom in to Mostyn and it tells you this location is a fixed
camera set at 40 - probably the one posted above in the
streetview location.
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