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#Post#: 81968--------------------------------------------------
Council proposing resident's parking scheme - advice sought on
how to object effectively.
DIR By: Jkcs44opqs
Date: July 21, 2025, 11:37 am
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Hi all,
I have recently got a letter through the door with my local
authority proposing the introduction of a new residents' permit
scheme on my estate.
They have previously consulted on the matter last year by post
and email, received a 16% response rate of 50/50 in
favour/opposing split and so didn't continue. Then a few weeks
ago another consultation letter arrived in the post, but this
time inviting responses via a QR code leading to a Microsoft
forms form. The response rate to this consultation exercise was
apparently 89% with 86% percent of responses in favour of the
scheme. Notably the Microsoft form didn't require any
validation, name to be given etc etc. One response was allowed
per address within the affected area, and I'm not aware of how
double submissions from one address were treated etc. Without
wanting to speculate, I have suspicions that some eager folks on
the wider estate may have submitted more than one form, or
somesuch deception. This is especially since having talked to my
neighbours they seem broadly in agreement against the scheme.
From what I gather, at the moment the scheme to introduce the
TRO to enable the scheme is in preliminary consultation, and the
statutory process has not yet begun.
The steps I have taken so far are:
I have written a leaflet detailing issues raised when speaking
with neighbours in opposition to the scheme, detailing the
rationale behind opposing the scheme, listing the traffic
management department contacts and councillors to contact to
express concerns. I will later today drop it through neighbours'
doors. The leaflet also includes a link to an online form where
responses can be entered.
I have sent an email to the traffic management person in charge
of consulting the scheme at the council detailing the
objections.
I will later send emails to the appropriate councillors for the
area.
Briefly, my and a few other neighbours objections to the scheme
are:
- Cost - £60 per car, where the parking was always free,
especially as there doesn't seem to be a need on the estate for
the scheme.
- The estate consists of adopted and unadopted roads,as well as
parking spaces held as a freehold by the house owners. the
council can't enforce on non-adopted sections, there may be
fines issued in error to residents parked where a permit isn't
required, likewise if someone was to park in an unadopted
section or assigned parking space and force the residents to
park elsewhere where a permit is required. In general, it seems
like an administrative headache.
- The scheme doesn't seem to be required, parking on the estate
isn't problematic, when it does get busy it seems to be from
visitors to properties within the estate rather then external
visitor.
- The council is justifying the need for the scheme as due to
parking pressures from a temporary hospital car park that opened
a few months ago. The car park is due to close in the autumn
once a new multi-storey at the hospital is completed. It doesn't
seem sensible to me to introduce a TRO for the whole estate due
to a temporary car park that will more than likely be closing by
the time the TRO is coming into force.
If the case was that the vast majority on the estate want the
scheme, and I was the odd one out then so be it, but it seems
more than suspicious to me.
I would be grateful for any tips, pointers and thoughts as to
the best way to proceed as the scheme progresses. Are there any
particular statutory points to keep in mind?
Many thanks in advance!
#Post#: 81971--------------------------------------------------
Re: Council proposing resident's parking scheme - advice sought
on how to object effectively.
DIR By: John U.K.
Date: July 21, 2025, 12:00 pm
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Reporters on local newspaper?
Any Councillors opposed?
#Post#: 81986--------------------------------------------------
Re: Council proposing resident's parking scheme - advice sought
on how to object effectively.
DIR By: Jkcs44opqs
Date: July 21, 2025, 1:15 pm
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--- Quote from: John U.K. link ---
>
> Reporters on local newspaper?
>
> Any Councillors opposed?
>
--- End Quote ---
Thanks for the response,
Once I have a few responses from neighbours to the leaflet I
will contact a reporter in the local paper.
I haven't heard from the councillors yet, but hopefully.
#Post#: 82014--------------------------------------------------
Re: Council proposing resident's parking scheme - advice sought
on how to object effectively.
DIR By: stamfordman
Date: July 21, 2025, 3:54 pm
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So where is this? In my experience there are usually two sides
to such situations - a nearby hospital is a big factor in local
parking.
#Post#: 82232--------------------------------------------------
Re: Council proposing resident's parking scheme - advice sought
on how to object effectively.
DIR By: Korting
Date: July 22, 2025, 4:53 pm
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I was recently involved with a petition on the Council’s
website.
During the run on this petition, it became apparent that a few
of the signatories were not genuine.
It appeared that anyone could sign anyone’s name, there was no
form of verification which is why it happened.
I would suggest that something like this has taken place.
I would suggest you do the following:
Find out who the Chief Executive and the legal monitoring
officer is. Also find out who is in charge of democracy.
Write to your local councillors together with the leader of the
Council, copying in the above people.
Ask them to confirm how they verified that those who signed had
only done so once and that they only had one response from each
affected property.
Find out if there was a means to sign a paper petition. If
there wasn’t you could have a case of discrimination both on
ageism and those who don't have or cant use a computer.
It might be that the local authority is trying to find means of
raising money.
Where is this?
#Post#: 82339--------------------------------------------------
Re: Council proposing resident's parking scheme - advice sought
on how to object effectively.
DIR By: Jkcs44opqs
Date: July 23, 2025, 9:34 am
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--- Quote from: stamfordman link ---
>
> So where is this? In my experience there are usually two sides
to such situations - a nearby hospital is a big factor in local
parking.
>
--- End Quote ---
I mean, maybe, but it seems exceedingly unlikely to me. Having
gone round the estate now to speak with people I've noticed a
number of the properties are empty between tenancies, some are
airbnbs, a number of people I spoke with were completely unaware
of any scheme, despite presumably getting a letter. So an
80-something percent response rate even seems very very
unlikely.
#Post#: 82340--------------------------------------------------
Re: Council proposing resident's parking scheme - advice sought
on how to object effectively.
DIR By: Jkcs44opqs
Date: July 23, 2025, 9:36 am
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--- Quote from: Korting link ---
>
> I was recently involved with a petition on the Council’s
website.
>
> During the run on this petition, it became apparent that a few
of the signatories were not genuine.
>
> It appeared that anyone could sign anyone’s name, there was no
form of verification which is why it happened.
>
> I would suggest that something like this has taken place.
>
> I would suggest you do the following:
>
> Find out who the Chief Executive and the legal monitoring
officer is. Also find out who is in charge of democracy.
>
> Write to your local councillors together with the leader of
the Council, copying in the above people.
>
> Ask them to confirm how they verified that those who signed
had only done so once and that they only had one response from
each affected property.
>
> Find out if there was a means to sign a paper petition. If
there wasn’t you could have a case of discrimination both on
ageism and those who don't have or cant use a computer.
>
> It might be that the local authority is trying to find means
of raising money.
>
> Where is this?
>
--- End Quote ---
Thanks for the suggestions, I shall contact these people with my
concerns. This is in Derby, surrounding the temporary park and
ride hospital car park for the royal Derby Hospital.
#Post#: 82357--------------------------------------------------
Re: Council proposing resident's parking scheme - advice sought
on how to object effectively.
DIR By: stamfordman
Date: July 23, 2025, 10:23 am
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Usually, parking and low traffic schemes get flooded with
objectors many of whom are out of the area so this response in
favour is odd.
#Post#: 82696--------------------------------------------------
Re: Council proposing resident's parking scheme - advice sought
on how to object effectively.
DIR By: Korting
Date: July 25, 2025, 10:46 am
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--- Quote from: stamfordman link ---
>
> Usually, parking and low traffic schemes get flooded with
objectors many of whom are out of the area so this response in
favour is odd.
>
--- End Quote ---
If the Council is doing its job properly (which often they’re
not) the consultation should only go to people directly affected
by the proposed scheme. Responses from people outside the area
should be rejected.
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