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       Re: 31J - entering and stopping in a box junction when
       prohibited Peartree way, Greenwich
   DIR By: Goatzie1234
       Date: December 16, 2023, 7:32 am
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       Just cant help but find this recent letter rude.
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       #Post#: 12550--------------------------------------------------
       Re: 31J - entering and stopping in a box junction when
       prohibited Peartree way, Greenwich
   DIR By: Hippocrates
       Date: December 16, 2023, 10:31 am
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       I agree that it is rude.  Regarding names etc. all cases are
       available on a public register so that anybody can access the
       case details accordingly. Similarly, anyone can attend a hearing
       which is open to the public.
       I would write back and tell them that they have enough staff to
       issue tickets! and that they are quite dysfunctional, like
       Barking and Dagenham.
       Also, they had enough time and staff to issue a NOR.  I have had
       dealings with this mendacious outfit.
       Perhaps they should take stock?
       #Post#: 13660--------------------------------------------------
       Re: 31J - entering and stopping in a box junction when
       prohibited Peartree way, Greenwich
   DIR By: henz
       Date: January 12, 2024, 10:55 am
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       Hey all, I would just like to add that I had the same PCN issued
       to me on the 29th June 2023 and failed to win my appeal via a
       London Tribunals adjudicator in Nov of 2023. If details are
       requested for this I am happy to provide but the main reason why
       I was denied my appeal is because I entered the box junction
       onto stationary vehicles (even though there was plenty of room
       in front of the stationary vehicle).
       Anyways I am here because we have again (my Dad this time) been
       caught by the same camera and after finding and reading this
       post this time around I would love to hear from you guys on what
       you think and if there are grounds for me to appeal here. Please
       find attached video evidence.
       The car to the right in the other lane also cuts in a little
       where space was present. The way I see it is there is space for
       the car to exit on the other end but it just took a couple secs
       of stopping in between that triggered the happy snapping camera.
       What the footage does not capture is the space being filled and
       box junction being cleared before the crossing traffic starts
       moving. Also, does my video also start late where I'm just
       inside the box junction therefore the argument that @cp87699
       made applies?
       Would love to hear from you guys ASAP as letter came in only
       yesterday.
       Thanks
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       Re: 31J - entering and stopping in a box junction when
       prohibited Peartree way, Greenwich
   DIR By: John U.K.
       Date: January 12, 2024, 11:06 am
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       [member=1153]henz[/member]
       PLease have a read of
  HTML https://www.ftla.uk/civil-penalty-charge-notices-(councils-tfl-and-so-on)/read-this-first-before-posting-your-case!-this-section-is-for-council-tfl-dartme/
       and start your own thread.
       #Post#: 13667--------------------------------------------------
       Re: 31J - entering and stopping in a box junction when
       prohibited Peartree way, Greenwich
   DIR By: MrChips
       Date: January 12, 2024, 12:30 pm
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       Yes start a new thread.  Having looked at your video, there is
       room for optimism I think but I will save comment for when you
       start your own thread.
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