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PCN in loading bay for 6 minutes 2 seconds. How long to load?
Lambeth
DIR By: OBeerLondon
Date: July 15, 2025, 2:57 am
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Hi, great site but I fear I may have found it too late for this
case!
I parked in a 30 minute loading bay near my warehouse after
receiving a text from a supplier saying good were left outside.
It's just a regular loading area and is not restricted to
commercial vehicles. I arrived, parked in the loading area,
walked around to the warehouse, unlocked and collected the heavy
goods, packing them from front of my premises where they had
been left (for anyone to steal) onto a trolley. I then walked
back to my car to find the warden walking away and ticket
issued. I had been about 7 minutes or maybe 8. I have written to
the council to explain this and also provide my own proof of
delivery. I have provided proof of my business address and proof
I own the business to the council.
I find it very odd that "30 minutes loading" doesn't take into
account the distance you may have to travel or your travel time
with heavy goods. I also have to cross a busy road both there
and back.
The only thing that my have tripped me up is I explained in my
response I had to "walk, unlock premises, pack and return to
vehicle" or similar. They do state "packing" is not allowed in
your loading time on a response but pack in in this instance
"packing" is putting a box onto a trolley.
As I said I probably found this site too late for this ticket as
it's now at the stage where a Notice to the Owner will be issued
in a bout 7-8 days and I have to decide if I should wait for
that and continue challenging this or just pay the £80 now.
I can attach the most recent letter if this helps.
Thanks so much for your help with this.
Oliver
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Re: PCN in loading bay for 6 minutes 2 seconds. How long to
load? Lambeth
DIR By: H C Andersen
Date: July 15, 2025, 4:18 am
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Where's your warehouse? We need some spatial details. The
loading bay doesn't serve any immediately adjacent properties.
#Post#: 81038--------------------------------------------------
Re: PCN in loading bay for 6 minutes 2 seconds. How long to
load? Lambeth
DIR By: OBeerLondon
Date: July 15, 2025, 4:35 am
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Thanks for the replay, appreciated. The warehouse is at the end
of the alleyway Craft Metropolis, Arch 263, 241 Coldharbour
Lane, SW9 8RR. The loading bay is behind Tesco on Belinda Road
SW9. Thee's no actual commercial or residential properties
opposite or near the loading area other than rear door for
Tesco. The area is about 8 to 10 car spaces long. It's shown on
the map with the black line. The access to the alleyway to my
property is shown by the arrow. Cheers
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Re: PCN in loading bay for 6 minutes 2 seconds. How long to
load? Lambeth
DIR By: beedmo
Date: July 22, 2025, 2:20 pm
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This stuff boils my blood. Why dent a working mans wages. The
amount of these I've had in my work van, liveried up with the
supermarket I work for, is silly.
Can you provide what exactl you say in the appeal to the council
initially?
As the double yellows closest to you warehouse outright ban
loading at anytime, this loading bay is the closest reasonable
place to load. If what you meant by "packing" is putting things
from the warehouse onto a trolley, then that is loading and you
may have a chance at the tribunal.
Let us know if you've paid it and maybe we can look at
submitting somthing to tribunal.
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Re: PCN in loading bay for 6 minutes 2 seconds. How long to
load? Lambeth
DIR By: H C Andersen
Date: July 22, 2025, 2:53 pm
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The DYL adjacent to the alleyway do not prohibit loading. The
sign which is obscured in the 2024 GSV is clear in 2023 and bans
loading to its left, not right.
OP, you have until 25th to pay the discount.
OP, pl explain the issue of the trolley. In general terms, you
should not take longer loading than necessary. If you had not
had access to a trolley how would you have moved the load from
where it was left and how many journeys would this have
necessitated?
For example:
3 journeys' worth of load if carried by hand * 4 minute walk
each way = 24 mins and your vehicle being left unattended
initially for 8 minutes.
Whereas:
2 journeys' worth of load (walk to site, get trolley, load,
return to car, load vehicle, return trolley to site then return
to car) with 4 minutes(say) to load trolley = 20 minutes.
We need more info about the load e.g. boxed or loose, what form,
quantity etc.
As you say, I think your use of terms caused the council to
respond as they did. Depending on your details, better-worded
representations could succeed.
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