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       #Post#: 7939--------------------------------------------------
       Re: TFL, Code 31 Entering and stopping in a box junction,
       Beckton roundabout/A406/A13, Yellow Box
   DIR By: chand
       Date: October 21, 2023, 5:49 am
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       Pl see my draft based on suggestions with little modification:
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       I challenge liability for PCN GX10193723 on the basis that the
       alleged contravention did not occur. This is because :
       1)   At the point of entry no other stationary vehicle inside
       the box on my path.
       2)   Momentarily slowed/stopped for about 3 secs at the other
       end before clearing the box because I thought, have exited the
       box.
       That stop ( 3 Secs)  was not caused by the presence of
       stationary vehicles, as the video clearly shows that there is
       ample space ahead of my vehicle outside of the box
       3)    I did not obstruct any vehicles coming from any other
       directions.
       It follows that the PCN must be cancelled.
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       Please let me know if you have comments.
       Thanks
       #Post#: 7999--------------------------------------------------
       Re: TFL, Code 31 Entering and stopping in a box junction,
       Beckton roundabout/A406/A13, Yellow Box
   DIR By: ivanleo
       Date: October 21, 2023, 12:12 pm
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       --- Quote from: chand link ---
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       > Please let me know if you have comments.
       >
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       I've been doing this for a very long time, so please don't take
       this the wrong way, but my advice is to throw your draft in the
       bin and use what I have drafted for you in the post above
  HTML https://www.ftla.uk/civil-penalty-charge-notices-(councils-tfl-and-so-on)/tfl-code-31-entering-and-stopping-in-a-box-junction-beckton-roundabouta406a13-ye/msg7589/#msg7589.
       You just need to copy / paste.
       If the representation is rejected, I am happy to handle the
       tribunal appeal for you.
       #Post#: 8002--------------------------------------------------
       Re: TFL, Code 31 Entering and stopping in a box junction,
       Beckton roundabout/A406/A13, Yellow Box
   DIR By: MrChips
       Date: October 21, 2023, 12:29 pm
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       I'd listen to cp8759 if I was you.
       Any adjudicator will say your first and third points are
       irrelevant to the contravention.
       #Post#: 8023--------------------------------------------------
       Re: TFL, Code 31 Entering and stopping in a box junction,
       Beckton roundabout/A406/A13, Yellow Box
   DIR By: chand
       Date: October 21, 2023, 4:11 pm
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       Appealed today :
       Dear Transport for London,
       I challenge liability for PCN GX10193723 on the basis that the
       alleged contravention did not occur. This is because while my
       vehicle did stop within the yellow box markings, that stop was
       not caused by the presence of stationary vehicles, as the video
       clearly shows that there is ample space ahead of my vehicle
       outside of the box.
       It follows that the PCN must be cancelled.
       Yours faithfully,
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       Thanks for the advise, will keep the forum updated on the
       progress.
       #Post#: 11910--------------------------------------------------
       Re: TFL, Code 31 Entering and stopping in a box junction,
       Beckton roundabout/A406/A13, Yellow Box
   DIR By: chand
       Date: December 5, 2023, 6:13 am
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       I didn't receive any reply by post as of today for the appeal.
       So out of curiosity I checked the PCN status on TFL website and
       found the appeal as rejected on 09th Nov, as below.
       09 Nov 2023    Rejected Representation - Discount Period Reset.
       TFL has rejected a representation for this PCN. The discount
       period has been reset for a specific duration.
       I didn't receive any rejection letter so far.
       Should I ask them to send the rejection letter or go for final
       challenge, only a few days left if consider 28 days.
       Thanks for advise.
       #Post#: 13574--------------------------------------------------
       Re: TFL, Code 31 Entering and stopping in a box junction,
       Beckton roundabout/A406/A13, Yellow Box
   DIR By: ivanleo
       Date: January 10, 2024, 6:10 pm
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       Outcome
  HTML https://drive.google.com/uc?id=1SUWcKNt81rdHkmkJyC6llVvdT-a_8OQI.
       #Post#: 13577--------------------------------------------------
       Re: TFL, Code 31 Entering and stopping in a box junction,
       Beckton roundabout/A406/A13, Yellow Box
   DIR By: Hippocrates
       Date: January 11, 2024, 4:06 am
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       Well done.  Was there ever a NOR sent?
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