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Euro Car Park fine
DIR By: Hiram
Date: July 8, 2025, 5:58 am
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Hi folks,
Just got this PCN. Are Euro one of the ones to ignore? See
image.
[attachment deleted by admin]
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Re: Euro Car Park fine
DIR By: b789
Date: July 8, 2025, 6:11 am
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How long have you been on this forum? I will fine you £20 each
time you refer to a Parking Charge Notice (PCN) as a "fine'! As
part of the deal, I will give you £100 for each occurrence of
the word "fine" you can find on the Notice to Keeper (NtK).
This will go through the motions of appeal, rejection, POPLA
appeal, rejection, debt recovery letters, Letter of Claim (LoC),
claim, defence, DQ, mediation call, allocation, directions and
eventual discontinuance. Just follow the advice and don't
deviate from it or try to overthink it.
Step 1, initial appeal with the following, only as the Keeper:
--- Quote ---
> I am the keeper of the vehicle and I dispute your 'parking
charge'. I deny any liability or contractual agreement and I
will be making a complaint about your predatory conduct to your
client landowner.
>
> As your Notice to Keeper (NtK) does not fully comply with ALL
the requirements of PoFA 2012, you are unable to hold the keeper
of the vehicle liable for the charge. Partial or even
substantial compliance is not sufficient. There will be no
admission as to who was driving and no inference or assumptions
can be drawn. ECP has relied on contract law allegations of
breach against the driver only.
>
> The registered keeper cannot be presumed or inferred to have
been the driver, nor pursued under some twisted interpretation
of the law of agency. Your NtK can only hold the driver liable.
ECP have no hope at POPLA, so you are urged to save us both a
complete waste of time and cancel the PCN.
--- End Quote ---
When that is rejected, you can submit what you like to POPLA but
they will reject your appeal. Don't worry though. It is going to
cost ECP about £5 to have the appeal assessed. It is just not
worth putting too much effort into a POPLA appeal for this case.
Let ti go through the process and in about 9 months to a year,
it will all be over when they discontinue.
#Post#: 80076--------------------------------------------------
Re: Euro Car Park fine
DIR By: DWMB2
Date: July 8, 2025, 7:32 am
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Hiram - Quality of Input = Quality of Output.
When making posts, please read the READ THIS FIRST - Private
Parking Charges Forum guide
HTML https://www.ftla.uk/private-parking-tickets/read-this-first-private-parking-charges-forum-guide/<br
/>and provide as much of the information it asks for as you are
able to.
Members are likely to be a lot more inclined to offer you free
advice if you make the effort to provide us with something
useful to go on, rather than just posting half of a notice to
keeper and saying "Just got this PCN. Are Euro one of the ones
to ignore? See image."
#Post#: 80206--------------------------------------------------
Re: Euro Car Park fine
DIR By: Hiram
Date: July 9, 2025, 4:05 am
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[member=26]b789[/member] thanks as always. I will not use that
word again!
[member=103]DWMB2[/member] apologies! That's the only page I
received from them I'm afraid but I will add more details in the
future
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Re: Euro Car Park fine
DIR By: DWMB2
Date: July 9, 2025, 4:12 am
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--- Quote from: Hiram link ---
>
> That's the only page I received from them I'm afraid
>
--- End Quote ---
That would be incredibly unusual, there is usually something
printed on the back.
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Re: Euro Car Park fine
DIR By: Hiram
Date: August 8, 2025, 2:26 pm
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Evening [member=26]b789[/member],
As you predicted the appeal was rejected. Should I even bother
with a POPLA appeal or just wait until an LoC comes through
eventually?
Thanks as always.
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Re: Euro Car Park fine
DIR By: b789
Date: August 9, 2025, 2:32 am
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You may as well appeal to POPLA but it is highly unlikely they
will accept anything unless you can convince them that the signs
do not conform to the requirements of the BPA Code of Practice.
There have been several successful POPLA appeals over ECPs signs
over the years.
Their Notice to Keeper (NtK) fails to fully comply with ALL the
requirements of PoFA, namely paragraph 9(2)(e)(i) as there is no
invitation for the Keeper to pay the charge. Their NtK only
warns the Keeper that the driver is liable and they should give
them the drivers details and pass the NtK to the driver or if
they were the driver, they can pay it. As there is no legal
obligation on the Keeper to identify the driver, there is no
actual invitation for the Keeper to pay the notice, irrespective
of whether they were the driver or not.
All they had to do was have a sentence such as: "You are now
invited to either pay the charge or pass the notice to the
driver and give us their details". They haven't and therefore
they are not in full compliance with all the requirements of
paragraph 9(2) of PoFA. Paragraph 9(2) is not a set of optional
requirements that need to be fulfilled. All those requirements
MUST be fulfilled. It is a a binary issue.
Also, you must put them to strict proof of a valid contract
flowing from the landowner that authorises them to issue PCNs in
their own name at the location.
Have a search for any recent POPLA appeals and up something
together yourself and show us before you send anything. You have
33 days from the date of the appeal rejection to submit your
POPLA appeal, so no rush.
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Re: Euro Car Park fine
DIR By: Hiram
Date: August 5, 2026, 10:58 am
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Hi all,
Received what I believe is the POPLA. I did look for template
responses but only found one that was massive which seemed like
overkill. Does anyone have one pls?
HTML https://ibb.co/0ppvzHPW
HTML https://ibb.co/Q0Qrs9T
#Post#: 127058--------------------------------------------------
Re: Euro Car Park fine
DIR By: jfollows
Date: August 6, 2026, 10:28 am
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Sorry, but something doesn't make sense.
8 August 2025 you posted that your appeal was rejected.
Why are you now posting a rejection letter dated 4 August 2026?
These are not both for the same case, surely? Can you please
explain?
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Re: Euro Car Park fine
DIR By: Hiram
Date: August 11, 2026, 7:43 am
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[member=636]jfollows[/member] - my mistake. Apologies. Quite
right this is a new fine from Euro Car Parks annoyingly. Does
anyone have a simple POPLA template I can tweak pls?
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