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Re: Newham council PCN
DIR By: Hashim
Date: November 25, 2025, 10:08 am
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This is typical Newham council.
So after 2 months of waiting for the NTO He received this notice
today which states that he did not respond to the NTO and so has
lost all rights of appeal.
They never send the NTO as this has happened to him before even
though they claim to have done.
HTML https://ibb.co/fGMYvQrm.
Whats next.....
Thanks
Hashim
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Re: Newham council PCN
DIR By: John U.K.
Date: November 25, 2025, 10:36 am
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The matter can be reset - have a read of
HTML https://www.ftla.uk/announcements/charge-certificate-cases-under-the-traffic-management-act-2004-no-original-pcn/
For convenience:
HTML https://i.ibb.co/5xTWF2sq/Screenshot-20251125-155116-Whats-App.jpg
HTML https://ibb.co/fGMYvQrm
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Re: Newham council PCN
DIR By: H C Andersen
Date: November 25, 2025, 11:14 am
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???
We have now received the NTO.
You must now respond to the NtO, (pay or submit a formal
representation).
So after 2 months of waiting for the NTO He received this notice
today which states that he did not respond to the NTO and so has
lost all rights of appeal.
OP, pl explain.
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Re: Newham council PCN
DIR By: John U.K.
Date: November 25, 2025, 11:28 am
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+1
HCA is right to raise the discrepancy: I did not read far enough
back in the thread - your post today is at odds with your post
#8 of 7th September last.
Did you follow Incandescent's advice in post #9 of the same
date?
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Re: Newham council PCN
DIR By: Hashim
Date: November 26, 2025, 10:21 am
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Apologies for the discrepancy. Writing on behalf of a friend.
Yes quite rightly NTO was received on the 9th Sept and a
response was given on the same date and we were waiting for THIS
response which we never received.
For them now to claim that we did not respond to the NTO is
absolutely false as we have an email dated the 9th September
giving a reference number.
HTML https://ibb.co/tMGZ0NNV
What now please....
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Re: Newham council PCN
DIR By: John U.K.
Date: November 26, 2025, 10:37 am
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--- Quote from: Hashim link ---
>
> Apologies for the discrepancy. Writing on behalf of a friend.
Yes quite rightly NTO was received on the 9th Sept and a
response was given on the same date and we were waiting for THIS
response which we never received.
>
> For them now to claim that we did not respond to the NTO is
absolutely false as we have an email dated the 9th September
giving a reference number.
>
>
HTML https://ibb.co/tMGZ0NNV
>
> What now please....
>
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Then you need to follow the advice here:
HTML https://www.ftla.uk/announcements/charge-certificate-cases-under-the-traffic-management-act-2004-no-original-notic/
HTML https://i.ibb.co/QFg8Wqqy/IMG-20251126-WA0014.jpg
HTML https://ibb.co/tMGZ0NNV
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Re: Newham council PCN
DIR By: Hashim
Date: November 26, 2025, 10:55 am
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Ok. So what happens after all this process...
We go to court???
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Re: Newham council PCN
DIR By: H C Andersen
Date: November 26, 2025, 12:22 pm
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OP, slow down.
You have received a Charge Cert despite making representations
against the NTO in time but not receiving a formal Notice of
Rejection from the council.
This does NOT mean they did not send one, it means that it
wasn't received.
These things can happen.
I notice that they reserve the right to reply to reps by email
if one was included in the reps. Was an email included? Have you
checked your emails, including junk?
This is a procedure and you must stick with it or risk dragging
defeat from the jaws of victory. The council are in this with
you and know how things work.
So find out by contacting the council. Keep it light, don't
complain and don't make it sound like an appeal or challenge
against the CC. Just tell them a CC has been received despite
making reps in time and would they confirm whether and when a
Notice of Rejection was sent, if so would they please send a
copy and when might they issue an Order for Recovery. You never
know, if the c**k-up is at their end then they could even cancel
the PCN.
All you're doing is finding out how and when a NOR was sent and
asking for a copy to give you a head's up before the post-CC
process kicks in. Have you read the link provided earlier?
There's also this which comes from the tribunal website, you're
at the Charge Certificate stage:
HTML https://www.londontribunals.gov.uk/eat/understanding-enforcement-process/parking-penalty-charge-notice-enforcement-process
In short:
You don't pay the CC but wait for the Order for Recovery. You
complete the enclosed Witness Statement by ticking one box,
signing and returning to the Traffic Enforcement Centre who
would then cancel the OfR, write to the council and tell them to
cancel the CC and copy this letter to you.
The council then have to refer the matter to the adjudicator who
would likely require you to provide them with a copy of your
reps (so keep a copy) after which an adjudication hearing would
be scheduled.
All routine, nothing special or out of the ordinary in your
case.
*-you/your =your friend.
NB. you cannot contact the council unless authorised in writing
by the registered keeper because of data protection rules.
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