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Richmond - PCN - Contravention 52M - Burtons Rd Eastwards
DIR By: Reluctant Driver
Date: June 21, 2023, 10:10 am
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The time line of events were;
19/04/23 : Date of contravention,
25/04/23 : Date of notice for PCN posted to my house address,
05/05/23 : I submitted my appeal (I received email confirmation
that they have received my appeal submitted by an online form),
14/06/23 : I received an email with a letter attached advising
that I'm not the registered keeper of the vehicle.
My wife has only received the original PCN and no further
correspondence.
On the morning of 19th April 2023 I was driving the car to work
on the A312 in Hampton and the road I normally travel on had
been blocked to all traffic by the police. I just followed the
traffic in front of me down Queens road and then Burtons road.
There were no signs for a diversion.
Subsequently I received the below PCN
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The most recent correspondence I was emailed
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Re: Richmond - PCN - Contravention 52M - Burtons Rd Eastwards
DIR By: ivanleo
Date: June 21, 2023, 6:07 pm
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You can make a representation but only with your wife's written
authorisation, so you'll need to get this. She is legally
responsible for the PCN no matter who was driving.
However your representation also needs beefing up, it's lacking
in detail.
What is the road that you normally travel on?
Where exactly did the police close the road? Give us a link to
the exact spot on google street view please.
#Post#: 330--------------------------------------------------
Re: Richmond - PCN - Contravention 52M - Burtons Rd Eastwards
DIR By: Reluctant Driver
Date: June 22, 2023, 2:27 am
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Many thanks for your reply, hopefully the streetview link shows
where I was driving on the A312 towards Teddington. I would
normally take the left at the roundabout for Park Road A313 but
was prevented from doing so. I knew that Burtons Road was off
limits to Commuter traffic.
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So the Police had blocked the road slightly further up the road
from where you can see the Teddington sign post.
Traffic was actually turning into Queens road which is normally
no entry.
I had already been stuck creeping along in the massive delays
and so I just followed the traffic ahead of me.
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Re: Richmond - PCN - Contravention 52M - Burtons Rd Eastwards
DIR By: ivanleo
Date: June 23, 2023, 8:51 am
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Were the police actually directing traffic up Queen's Road?
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Re: Richmond - PCN - Contravention 52M - Burtons Rd Eastwards
DIR By: Reluctant Driver
Date: June 24, 2023, 3:13 pm
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No the police were not directing the traffic when I reached
there.
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Re: Richmond - PCN - Contravention 52M - Burtons Rd Eastwards
DIR By: ivanleo
Date: June 25, 2023, 5:20 am
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--- Quote from: Reluctant Driver link ---
>
> No the police were not directing the traffic when I reached
there.
>
--- End Quote ---
So you're saying there was no official diversion, and drivers
(unfortunately this includes you) took it upon themselves to
drive through a no-entry sign, is that correct?
If that's the case it's doesn't mean all hope is lost, but the
representations will need to be worded very carefully. While you
cannot lie in the representations, you don't need to incriminate
yourself either and it's a fine line in this case.
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