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Re: Advice Needed- NCP Birmingham International Airport
DIR By: jfollows
Date: November 1, 2025, 6:36 am
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Yes, it’s viewable.
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Re: Advice Needed- NCP Birmingham International Airport
DIR By: b789
Date: November 1, 2025, 1:02 pm
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Did you make the advised complaints to the ICO and British
Parking Association?
Absolutely nothing to worry about. Even if they issue a claim,
it is their loss once it gets struck out or discontinued.
Respond to the LoC with the following to
help@moorsidelegal.co.uk and CC yourself:
--- Quote ---
> Subject: Response to your Letter of Claim Ref: [reference
number]
>
> Dear Sirs,
>
> Your Letter Before Claim contains insufficient detail of the
claim and fails to provide copies of the evidence your client
places reliance upon, putting it in clear breach of the
Pre-Action Protocol for Debt Claims.
>
> As a supposed firm of solicitors, one would expect you to
comply with paragraphs 3.1(a)–(d), 5.1 and 5.2 of the Protocol,
and paragraphs 6(a) and 6(c) of the Practice Direction. These
provisions exist to facilitate informed discussion and
proportionate resolution. You may wish to reacquaint yourselves
with them.
>
> The Civil Procedure Rules 1998, Pre-Action Conduct and
Protocols (Part 3), require the exchange of sufficient
information to understand each other’s position. Part 6
clarifies that this includes disclosure of key documents
relevant to the issues in dispute.
>
> Your template letter refers to a “contract” yet encloses none.
That omission undermines the only foundation upon which your
client’s claim allegedly rests. It is not possible to engage in
meaningful pre-litigation dialogue while you decline to furnish
the very document you purport to enforce.
>
> I confirm that, once I am in receipt of a Letter Before Claim
that complies with para 3.1(a), I shall seek advice and submit a
formal response within 30 days, as required. Accordingly, please
provide:
>
> [indent]1. A copy of the original Notice to Keeper (NtK) and
any notice chain relied upon to assert PoFA 2012
liability.

> 2. A copy of the contract you allege exists between your
client and the driver, being an actual photograph of the sign(s)
in place on the material date (not a stock image), together with
a site plan showing the sign locations.

> 3. The precise wording of the clause(s) allegedly breached.
> 
4. The written agreement between your client and the
landowner evidencing standing/authority to enforce and to
litigate.

> 5. A breakdown of the sums claimed, identifying whether the
principal sum is claimed as consideration or damages, and
whether the £70 “debt recovery” add-on includes
VAT.
[/indent]
>
> I am entitled to this information under paragraphs 6(a) and
6(c) of the Practice Direction, and I require it to meet my own
obligation under paragraph 6(b).
>
> If you fail to provide the above, I will treat that as
non-compliance with the PAPDC and Pre-Action Conduct and will
raise a formal complaint to the SRA regarding your conduct. I
reserve the right to place this correspondence before the Court
and to seek appropriate sanctions and costs (including, where
appropriate, a stay and/or other case management orders).
>
> Until your client complies and provides the requested
material, I am unable to respond properly to the alleged claim
or to consider my position. It would be premature and a waste of
costs and court time to issue proceedings. Should you do so, I
will seek immediate case management relief pursuant to paragraph
15(b) of the Practice Direction and an order compelling
provision of the above.
>
> Please note, I will not engage with any web portal; I will
only respond by email or post.
>
> Yours faithfully,
>
> [Your name]
--- End Quote ---
#Post#: 96890--------------------------------------------------
Re: Advice Needed- NCP Birmingham International Airport
DIR By: Hyperspeed101
Date: November 5, 2025, 4:31 am
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Apologies for the delay.
I've made the complaint to both ICO and BPA. I've also taken
your advice and emailed Moorside with the below text you have
provided. What are the next anticipated steps from Moorside, and
is there any timelines in relation to how long this could take
to be completely finished?
Am mindful it's been 7 months since the initial "infringement".
#Post#: 96892--------------------------------------------------
Re: Advice Needed- NCP Birmingham International Airport
DIR By: DWMB2
Date: November 5, 2025, 4:47 am
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They should respond to your LoC reply answering your queries.
They're more likely to respond fobbing off your queries. At some
point after that, they're likely to actually issue a claim,
which you will then defend. It's difficult to say how long the
overall process will take - the County Court system is
over-capacity - if you have a browse on the forum you'll see how
other cases have progressed. These things are usually measured
in months rather than weeks.
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Re: Advice Needed- NCP Birmingham International Airport
DIR By: b789
Date: November 5, 2025, 12:28 pm
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Depending on your local county court, these typically take
anything from 9-12+ months to conclusion. Just get on with your
life in the meantime. This will never reach a hearing stage.
#Post#: 99947--------------------------------------------------
Re: Advice Needed- NCP Birmingham International Airport
DIR By: Hyperspeed101
Date: November 26, 2025, 11:11 am
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So as you correctly predicted, they have sent an email querying
the email as to why I would need to inspect any agreement
between the client and the landowner, and continued to proceed
to outline the reason for the charges.
They have however attached 3 photos of the infringement
highlight the car is 50 seconds over the allotted time.
In terms of next steps, they've mentioned that they will not be
addressing any further correspondence related to disputes of the
same nature as well as issue me to pay the fine.
Can you please advise as to what to do for next steps please?
#Post#: 99998--------------------------------------------------
Re: Advice Needed- NCP Birmingham International Airport
DIR By: InterCity125
Date: November 27, 2025, 2:15 am
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All you need do is sit and relax.
Moorside are pee'd off because their bulling tactics aren't
working. Worse still, you're making them work for money which
they're never going to get.
Pre-action protocol requires that they DO provide you with
information which you might require to better understand their
position - so keep that letter safe as it shows their
unreasonable behaviour.
They are only interested in the money.
#Post#: 100047--------------------------------------------------
Re: Advice Needed- NCP Birmingham International Airport
DIR By: b789
Date: November 27, 2025, 8:10 am
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Just show us the letter rather than paraphrasing it. You blew
away the single defence that would have stopped this dead in its
tracks when you blabbed the identity of the driver.
Moorside may be a bunch of incompetents but they will issue a
claim. The best hope with a Moorside Legal issued claim is that
it may get struck out because they never comply with CPR
15.4(1)(a) in their Particulars of Claim (PoC). However, that is
not a guarantee.
They will also submit a WS written by one of their muppet
paralegals, which will be hearsay and advocacy which can be
argues should be disregarded.
Show the letter so a suitable response can be provided which can
later be used against them for breach of the PAPDC.
#Post#: 109962--------------------------------------------------
Re: Advice Needed- NCP Birmingham International Airport
DIR By: Hyperspeed101
Date: February 16, 2026, 12:06 pm
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Hi all,
Apologies for not responding to your last message, I didn't get
notified that you had responded to my last message and requested
to see the response in which I received. This is the Claim form
I've received. There are additional pages in which I'm happy to
include, but please advise so that I can follow next steps.
[member=26]b789[/member]- Let me know if you want me to attach
the previous emailed response I got from sending through your
statement responding to the LOC.
As always, any guidance would be greatly appreciated.
HTML https://i.postimg.cc/rF2Yp0Vs/Claim-Letter.jpg
HTML https://i.postimg.cc/L8HCzcZM/Statement.jpg
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Re: Advice Needed- NCP Birmingham International Airport
DIR By: jfollows
Date: February 16, 2026, 12:30 pm
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[member=26]b789[/member] will reply if you look for “gullible
tree”.
Are the rest of us not good enough?
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