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Re: Redbridge, School Street, Perrymans Farm Road
DIR By: rocky
Date: July 7, 2025, 4:26 pm
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>
> Forget the 14 day deadline as they will reoffer. Just
recovering from jet lag etc. Prod me tomorrow please.
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Hope you're feeling better now [member=24]Hippocrates[/member].
No rush if you're still recovering.
I also wanted to confirm what would be the deadline date for
appeal. PCN was posted using first class Royal Mail and PCN
issue date is 24 Jun'25. If I go by the second working day for
the PCN "served" date, then it's 26 Jun'25 and adding 28 days
would mean deadline for appeal is 24 July'25. Is that correct ?
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Re: Redbridge, School Street, Perrymans Farm Road
DIR By: H C Andersen
Date: July 8, 2025, 1:31 am
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Have you posted the PCN?
Under the Act there is a provision to the following effect:
3)The enforcing authority may disregard any such representations
which are received by them after the end of the period of 28
days beginning with the date on which the penalty charge notice
in question was served.
Authorities often include this in their PCNs, although unlike
parking legislation there is no requirement to do so, but it's
not mandatory because its effect is wrapped up in the reference
to increasing the penalty after the same period.
As regards your question, there's no 'deadline' as such because
the authority 'may' disregard, not 'will' and this is determined
on a case-by-case basis.
But to be safe get reps in before the 28-day period expires
which for a PCN issued on 24 June would be 23 July.
#Post#: 80190--------------------------------------------------
Re: Redbridge, School Street, Perrymans Farm Road
DIR By: rocky
Date: July 8, 2025, 7:55 pm
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Thanks [member=428]H C Andersen[/member] for the quick response!
I had posted PCN as pdf in my post, attaching as images for
reference.
There was a past case where [member=24]Hippocrates[/member]
([member=1]cp8759[/member] and yourself) made use of the issue
date and the served date to strengthen the argument (apologies
if I misinterpreted it):
HTML https://www.ftla.uk/civil-penalty-charge-notices-(councils-tfl-and-so-on)/redbridge-pcn-code-31j-stopping-in-a-box-junction-horns-road-(a)-tfl-yellow-box-/60/
So, I wanted to be doubly sure of the last date for appeal.
Based on my findings (Google search), it appeared that the PCN
served date should be the second working day after the PCN issue
date and I have 28 days since the beginning of the PCN serve
date.
I used a time and date calculator, but I'm not confident I'm
interpreting it correctly from a legal standpoint, so I wanted
to get some clarification here. PCN Issue Date: 24 June 2025. I
suppose the second working day would be 26 Jun and counting 28
days would be 24 July.
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#Post#: 80233--------------------------------------------------
Re: Redbridge, School Street, Perrymans Farm Road
DIR By: Hippocrates
Date: July 9, 2025, 6:15 am
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Absolutely not. With this outfit, I would submit at least a week
before as they are trigger-happy so I would say a week before
the 23rd. That is unless you want to play games with premature
charge certificates etc.
#Post#: 80633--------------------------------------------------
Re: Redbridge, School Street, Perrymans Farm Road
DIR By: rocky
Date: July 11, 2025, 1:29 pm
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Thanks [member=24]Hippocrates[/member]!
Just to update - My discount window ended right on the 14th day
since the date of the notice (09 July, notice date: 24 Jun).
Taken screenshot(attached).
It would be great if there are any pointers on what I must
include on the appeal. Here's what I'm thinking of based on the
suggestions:
Dear Redbridge Council,
Re: PCN
I am submitting a formal representation regarding the above
Penalty Charge Notice.
The alleged contravention did not occur, as the signage refers
to "term time," which is not clearly defined or reasonably
knowable by a driver in advance. It is unreasonable to expect
motorists to be aware of specific school term dates without
additional clarification on the sign itself.
I therefore respectfully request that the PCN be cancelled.
Yours sincerely,
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#Post#: 81825--------------------------------------------------
Re: Redbridge, School Street, Perrymans Farm Road
DIR By: Hippocrates
Date: July 20, 2025, 4:55 pm
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Add: the warning sign is also proscribed by law. Regulation 6
and Schedule 18 TSRGD 2016.
#Post#: 82040--------------------------------------------------
Re: Redbridge, School Street, Perrymans Farm Road
DIR By: rocky
Date: July 21, 2025, 5:59 pm
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Updated the draft to say that Term Time sign is proscribed and
submitted the appeal. Thank you [member=24]Hippocrates[/member]!
I will update once I hear back.
#Post#: 82055--------------------------------------------------
Re: Redbridge, School Street, Perrymans Farm Road
DIR By: rsg444
Date: July 22, 2025, 3:18 am
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Do you have evidence of the Term Time Only sign - today I
noticed that Redbridge had covered up the Term Time Only signs
for 2 of the "Schools Streets" that I almost drove through.
Though they should probably rename them to "Not So Schools
Streets" now.
Does the TMO specify Term Time only?
#Post#: 82091--------------------------------------------------
Re: Redbridge, School Street, Perrymans Farm Road
DIR By: Hippocrates
Date: July 22, 2025, 6:41 am
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The TMO states the times in detail. They close the signs during
holidays as they are allowed.
#Post#: 82194--------------------------------------------------
Re: Redbridge, School Street, Perrymans Farm Road
DIR By: Moshchino
Date: July 22, 2025, 1:54 pm
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Is there any update on how this turned out? I've just been
issued a PCN notice on the same road and place, as I was taking
my mum for a 9am blood test at the clinic.
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