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#Post#: 78724--------------------------------------------------
Newham, Code 12, Parking PCN, potentially due to event day
DIR By: pcnftla
Date: June 28, 2025, 4:46 pm
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Hi All,
Parked in Stratford from 7pm - 8:30pm on 28th June. PCN issued
at 7:27 pm.
The PCN mentioned this is due to parking without a valid permit,
but does not mention anything about event day. This seems to be
the only possibility as otherwise it would not be a violation.
The board does not provide any information about event days, or
where to find that information.
1. The council website
HTML https://www.newham.gov.uk/parking-permits/parking-newham/7
says
"We advertise the date of the next event day on signs at the
entrance to each of the RPZs." But I did not notice anything and
the PCN also does not show that as evidence.
The council also claims that "It’s a driver’s responsibility to
be aware of event dates so you know when parking is restricted."
The route I took
HTML https://imgur.com/a/8xRD8vtis
this.
PCN Photos:
HTML https://imgur.com/a/rWX0H5N
Council's photos also do not show any information about event
day signage.
Details:
PCN: PN22983168
VRM: LT71GXU
Street View:
HTML https://maps.app.goo.gl/uUCv7BnogQv6LBw88
Similar case (but code 30)
HTML https://www.ftla.uk/civil-penalty-charge-notices-(councils-tfl-and-so-on)/newham-pcn-event-da/45/
Any advice and assistance in drafting challenge would be
appreciated.
Thanking you in advance.
#Post#: 78732--------------------------------------------------
Re: Newham, Code 12, Parking PCN, potentially due to event day
DIR By: Enceladus
Date: June 28, 2025, 8:39 pm
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The event days in the stadium are here
HTML https://www.london-stadium.com/residents-information/index.html.<br
/>Looks like you fell foul of the Iron Maiden – Run For Your
Lives
World Tour.
I'm not certain that Newham actually maintain a schedule of
event days on their website, as they imply. The link you
provided doesn't tell you when the event days actually are. The
Council site refers you to the London Stadium site which might
be all right for the stadium but doesn't cover the rest of the
Olympic park which also hosts big events that trigger event day
parking restrictions. It seems to be unnecessarily awkward to
figure out if it's an event day or not.
Perhaps one of the other members can figure out where you
crossed the boundary into the SSE parking zone which is where
the Event Day signs should have been visible?
Hopefully member @mrmustard will be along to help.
#Post#: 78740--------------------------------------------------
Re: Newham, Code 12, Parking PCN, potentially due to event day
DIR By: mrmustard
Date: June 29, 2025, 3:00 am
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Please post up the front of the PCN itself
#Post#: 78758--------------------------------------------------
Re: Newham, Code 12, Parking PCN, potentially due to event day
DIR By: pcnftla
Date: June 29, 2025, 5:26 am
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Apologies for the confusion. I have re-uploaded the photos here
HTML https://imgur.com/a/rWX0H5N#.
#Post#: 78815--------------------------------------------------
Re: Newham, Code 12, Parking PCN, potentially due to event day
DIR By: stamfordman
Date: June 29, 2025, 4:16 pm
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I have some cases on this - one below - plus I think we one live
ongoing case.
I think Newham's signage is defective and some adjudicators
agree.
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Case reference 2240495930
Appellant Joe Manners
Authority London Borough of Newham
VRM AF65NBE
PCN Details
PCN PN38911392
Contravention date 09 Jun 2024
Contravention time 09:18:00
Contravention location Holland Road
Penalty amount GBP 130.00
Contravention Parked resident/shared use without a valid permit
Referral date -
Decision Date 10 Dec 2024
Adjudicator Sean Stanton-Dunne
Appeal decision Appeal allowed
Direction cancel the Penalty Charge Notice and the Notice to
Owner.
Reasons Mr Manners was scheduled for a personal hearing today
but he has not attended and so the appeal is being decided on
the evidence presented.
This PCN was issued for the alleged contravention of being
parked in a permit holder only parking bay in Holland Road at
9.18am on Sunday 9 June 2024 without a valid permit.
I have looked at the CEO's photographs and the Council's site
images. These show that Mr Manners' car was parked in a bay
which was signed as being for parking by permit holders only
during the restricted hours of 9am to 6pm from Mondays to
Fridays. Beneath this, a further restriction read "On event days
8am to 9pm". It is not in dispute that there was no valid permit
for parking.
The Council's evidence shows that Sunday 9 June 2024 was an
Event Day.
Mr Manners appeals because he says that the signage was not
clear in Holland Road. He says that he had no way of knowing
that this was an Event Day.
The Council relies upon CPZ signs alerting motorists to Event
Days. Library images are submitted of CPZ signs which carry an
Event Day notice at the foot of the sign alerting motorists to
the next such day.
CPZ signs alert motorists to single yellow line parking
restrictions. A motorist parking on a single yellow line in a
CPZ is expected to check CPZ parking sign restrictions and, in
so doing, will be aware of Event Day restrictions. However, a
motorist parking in a resident's bay or a shared use bay is
subject to the signed restrictions for the bay which may or may
not be the same as CPZ restrictions.
The time plate for this bay does not provide motorists with any
information about Event Days. It does not refer the motorist to
CPZ signs or to a website for details of Event Days. A motorist
parking in the bay cannot be expected to know where to find
details of Event Days.
The signage is also misleading. The wording "On event days 8am
to 9pm" appears directly beneath the Monday to Friday normal
restricted hours so that the motorist could easily read the
added restriction as meaning event days which are between Monday
and Friday.
I therefore find that the signage was not adequate and I allow
the appeal for that reason.
#Post#: 79140--------------------------------------------------
Re: Newham, Code 12, Parking PCN, potentially due to event day
DIR By: pcnftla
Date: July 1, 2025, 3:20 pm
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unsure what the outcome of the above was.
If it is worth challenging, can you please help me draft the
challenge? I am happy to draft initial version if that is
useful?
cc: [member=2249]stamfordman[/member],
[member=7]mrmustard[/member]
#Post#: 79258--------------------------------------------------
Re: Newham, Code 12, Parking PCN, potentially due to event day
DIR By: mrmustard
Date: July 2, 2025, 10:32 am
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It is worth challenging but only if you are prepared to risk the
discount as Newham will likely refuse and only the tribunal is
truly independent.
All you need to do is to select 'The contravention did not
occur' if their website requires an option to be chosen and then
state 'I was not parked in contravention. If you say this was
because it was an 'Event day' I was not on adequate notice of
it.
#Post#: 79281--------------------------------------------------
Re: Newham, Code 12, Parking PCN, potentially due to event day
DIR By: pcnftla
Date: July 2, 2025, 12:13 pm
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Re: "only if you are prepared to risk the discount as Newham
will likely refuse and only the tribunal is truly independent.
" I am slightly confused here as to what are the steps.
It says on the PCN that they will allow discount for 14 days
from rejection notice.
Just to clarify: Do you mean going to the tribunal after
rejection notice, and that would remove the discount?
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Re: Newham, Code 12, Parking PCN, potentially due to event day
DIR By: stamfordman
Date: July 2, 2025, 12:54 pm
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To get to the tribunal you have to wait for the notice to owner
and get a rejection. That's the second stage after the
windscreen PCN (which can be challenged too of course).
The tribunal appeal would be at the full £160.
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