DIR Return Create A Forum - Home
---------------------------------------------------------
FreeTrafficLegalAdvice
HTML https://ftla.createaforum.com
---------------------------------------------------------
*****************************************************
DIR Return to: Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so ...
*****************************************************
#Post#: 78586--------------------------------------------------
Havering, Code 62G Parked on a grass verge, Gaynes Park Road,
Upminster
DIR By: DMS28
Date: June 27, 2025, 2:39 pm
---------------------------------------------------------
Hi,
I hope you are all well.
My wife and I went to watch our granddaughter's sports day in
separate vehicles and we both parked on a grass verge where a
number of other cars were parked. Upon leaving, my wife and I
both had PCNs (see attached photos). There are no signs, no
yellow lines, no visible parking restrictions, etc.
Moreover, our PCNs state that the alleged contravention took
place in Gaynes Park Road but we were parked in Little Gaynes
Lane which is before the junction of Gaynes Park Road, so the
location on the PCNs is incorrect.
Evidence:
1. PCN HG50070944 (my van)
HTML https://i.imgur.com/UV2hXpF.jpeg
HTML https://i.imgur.com/0CXxtbo.jpeg
2. PCN HG50070911 (my wife's car)
HTML https://i.imgur.com/izeS1YG.jpeg
HTML https://i.imgur.com/FfYmrBC.jpeg
3. Photo of where I parked
HTML https://i.imgur.com/892oNj1.jpeg
4. Photo of where my wife parked
HTML https://i.imgur.com/w4VB3gq.jpeg
5. Google map screenshot of location
HTML https://i.imgur.com/p7WFwJs.jpeg
6. Google Map Location - Little Gaynes Lane -
HTML https://maps.app.goo.gl/Yd3GRxhr1D8MT7JF7
Based on the above and incorrect location do we have grounds to
appeal?
Thank you for any help.
#Post#: 78588--------------------------------------------------
Re: Havering, Code 62G Parked on a grass verge, Gaynes Park
Road, Upminster
DIR By: Daim456
Date: June 27, 2025, 2:58 pm
---------------------------------------------------------
Banged to rights, pavement parking ban applies the grass verge
as well. I can see there is a fence which shows the public
highway boundary.
No harm making a representation in case they messed up.
Put the draft here before sending.
#Post#: 78590--------------------------------------------------
Re: Havering, Code 62G Parked on a grass verge, Gaynes Park
Road, Upminster
DIR By: fraser.mitchell
Date: June 27, 2025, 3:24 pm
---------------------------------------------------------
Normally wrong location is fatal to enforcement of a PCN. In
your reps you should state that at no time were you parked on
Gaynes Park Road. They cannot reissue the PCNs. However, to get
a result, (and this is not guaranteed, I'm afraid), you would
have to take them to London Tribunals and risk the full PCN
penalty.
I am astonished you didn't know about the London-wide ban on
parking off-carriageway. This has been in place since the 70s
and requires no lines or signs.
#Post#: 78591--------------------------------------------------
Re: Havering, Code 62G Parked on a grass verge, Gaynes Park
Road, Upminster
DIR By: John U.K.
Date: June 27, 2025, 3:26 pm
---------------------------------------------------------
Please post up any photos which Havering have put on line.
Wrong location may be fatal to a PCN.
#Post#: 78595--------------------------------------------------
Re: Havering, Code 62G Parked on a grass verge, Gaynes Park
Road, Upminster
DIR By: stamfordman
Date: June 27, 2025, 3:50 pm
---------------------------------------------------------
I can't see you can get out of the contraventions if this is a
public road.
Be aware that Havering does not reoffer the discount on even
informal rejections.
So we need to assess how good the location error is.
HTML https://i.ibb.co/9HGqYH6P/hav2.jpg
HTML https://i.ibb.co/xS5dGpqM/hav1.jpg
*****************************************************
Page 1 of 1