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#Post#: 81809--------------------------------------------------
Re: Notice To Owner without having Received a PCN first
DIR By: H C Andersen
Date: July 20, 2025, 3:06 pm
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No you haven't!
You've submitted your skeleton argument and reserve the right to
make further representations - informed by our suggestions -
once you have seen the council's evidence!
#Post#: 82031--------------------------------------------------
Re: Notice To Owner without having Received a PCN first
DIR By: DontStandForNonsense
Date: July 21, 2025, 4:59 pm
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--- Quote from: H C Andersen link ---
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> No you haven't!
>
> You've submitted your skeleton argument and reserve the right
to make further representations - informed by our suggestions -
once you have seen the council's evidence!
>
--- End Quote ---
Ok, understood.
This is what I wrote:
I am writing to formally appeal the Notice to Owner I received
in relation to the alleged contravention.
When I returned to my vehicle, a Civil Enforcement Officer was
nearby, entering details into her handheld device. However,
there was no Penalty Charge Notice (PCN) attached to my vehicle,
nor was one handed to me or visibly in her possession. If she
was in the process of issuing a PCN, it had not been completed
or served at the time I was present.
I later received a Notice to Owner by post, which came as a
surprise given the lack of any physical PCN. I appealed this on
the grounds that no PCN had been properly issued or served, and
I requested supporting evidence. Unfortunately, no such evidence
was provided. The suggestion that the PCN may have been removed
or blown away is purely speculative and unsupported by any
proof.
Given that the council has not provided any substantive evidence
to show that a PCN was issued and served in accordance with the
relevant regulations, I respectfully request that this penalty
be cancelled.
#Post#: 84007--------------------------------------------------
Re: Notice To Owner without having Received a PCN first
DIR By: DontStandForNonsense
Date: August 4, 2025, 5:54 am
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They have cancelled it :)
"PCN RG40219655
MR XXXXX, the authority has not contested your appeal, and you
are not liable to pay the penalty charge."
"There is nothing to pay and the authority will cancel the
penalty charge
This is because the authority did not contest your appeal."
"The authority's reasons for not contesting the case are"
"Reading Borough Council has reviewed this Appeal and the
decision has been made in this instance to not contest this
Appeal. Please note, the PCN was issued correctly, and the
decision made in this instance does not set a precedent for
future PCNs that may be issued.
This case is now closed."
#Post#: 84008--------------------------------------------------
Re: Notice To Owner without having Received a PCN first
DIR By: DontStandForNonsense
Date: August 4, 2025, 5:56 am
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--- Quote from: DontStandForNonsense link ---
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> They have cancelled it :)
>
>
> "PCN RG40219655
> MR XXXXX, the authority has not contested your appeal, and you
are not liable to pay the penalty charge."
>
>
> "There is nothing to pay and the authority will cancel the
penalty charge
> This is because the authority did not contest your appeal."
>
> "The authority's reasons for not contesting the case are"
>
> "Reading Borough Council has reviewed this Appeal and the
decision has been made in this instance to not contest this
Appeal. Please note, the PCN was issued correctly, and the
decision made in this instance does not set a precedent for
future PCNs that may be issued.
>
> This case is now closed."
>
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By the way, what do they mean by saying "Please note, the PCN
was issued correctly"? No PCN was issued!
Also, who is saying this? Is it the council or the Tribunal?
#Post#: 84010--------------------------------------------------
Re: Notice To Owner without having Received a PCN first
DIR By: fraser.mitchell
Date: August 4, 2025, 6:19 am
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Please post up the letter advising of cancellation.
#Post#: 84013--------------------------------------------------
Re: Notice To Owner without having Received a PCN first
DIR By: DontStandForNonsense
Date: August 4, 2025, 6:28 am
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I haven't yet received any letters. Just an email referring me
to the tribunals website which when logged in shows this result
exactly as I copy pasted it.
#Post#: 84019--------------------------------------------------
Re: Notice To Owner without having Received a PCN first
DIR By: stamfordman
Date: August 4, 2025, 6:46 am
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That's from the tribunal, stating the authority's reason, which
often includes ridiculous template we see in accepted
representations.
#Post#: 84244--------------------------------------------------
Re: Notice To Owner without having Received a PCN first
DIR By: DontStandForNonsense
Date: August 5, 2025, 10:10 am
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So I can close this all down and forget about it :)
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