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       #Post#: 77630--------------------------------------------------
       Careless Driving Charge
   DIR By: forestfox
       Date: June 22, 2025, 11:31 pm
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       First of all, thanks to anyone who replies! I am in scotland.
       I've been charged with careless driving (verbally by PCs,
       yesterday morning, I have not received any paperwork yet.) After
       a minor incident outside my home. I rent a downstairs flat, and
       upstairs is an Airbnb usually block booked every week for the
       same work men, who usually have two large work vans on our very
       narrow street, with junctions relatively nearby.
       I own a car and motorbike, both insured to be kept on the road
       (no driveway or garage etc) and usually, due to the size of the
       street and how awkward parking is, I would park both quite close
       together just out of consideration to maximise space for others.
       Unfortunately at one point last month when I was leaving for
       work (1:30am) I went out to find that their vans were parked too
       close for me to be able to pull out in the car. I did try
       knocking for quite a while as loud as I could but no one came to
       the door. The motorbike was behind me, but my friend and I had
       swapped bikes for a little while at the weekend (both insured
       and licenced to do so) and he had accidentally taken my keys in
       his pocket.I pulled it as far as I could as steering lock was
       on, but regardless the second van was very close to the bike so
       that wasn't very far. Backing up until the car was touching the
       bike still didn't give me enough space. Panicking about being
       late to work (bad anxiety) I pulled out anyway resulting in
       minor scratches to my car and one of their vans (I have pictures
       of both). I told them when they got back from work the following
       evening about it all, I'm not disputing responsibility here at
       all. Insurance etc informed and such.
       Now over a month later the police arrived at my door yesterday
       morning to confirm details and let me know I'm being charged
       with careless driving due to this. I have been honest, and have
       not hidden anything from anyone about it. I realise legally I
       was in the wrong, as backwards as it might seem to me. I should
       have just not went to work until I could get it moved. My
       question is more whether the circumstances involved might help
       me get the lower end of the penalty, as I'm also awaiting
       surgery I should hopefully get soon with maybe 2 months off of
       work, so i'm just trying to plan financially.
       #Post#: 77684--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Careless Driving Charge
   DIR By: roythebus
       Date: June 23, 2025, 5:57 am
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       Are there any parking restrictions where you live; was the
       driver or keeper of the damaged van informed by you of your
       insurance details? Any exchange of details? How do the police
       know it was you who caused any damage?
       #Post#: 77693--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Careless Driving Charge
   DIR By: forestfox
       Date: June 23, 2025, 6:35 am
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       Hi, so I spoke to them myself and exchanged details. There are
       no parking restrictions. Naively, I am realising, I was honest
       about it all. I did not hear anything else at all about it, I do
       not even know the men upstairs' names, only the company they
       work for (liveried van). My insurance knows but I dont know if
       there is a claim against me taken out at the moment, I will be
       phoning them again today. The police turning up was honestly, a
       surprise.
       As I have already admitted and exchanged with the man upstairs I
       was honest with the police about it, although when speaking to
       me they made it sound like they had been told it was much more
       serious than it is. A couple of paint pens and you can barely
       tell on my car that it was ever scratched. It seems mad to me
       that I might get charged over this but I am accepting I did
       wrong in the eyes of the law and I'm just trying to get an idea
       of how boned I am.
       #Post#: 77712--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Careless Driving Charge
   DIR By: ManxTom
       Date: June 23, 2025, 7:32 am
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       Have the police actually charged you or have they simply
       notified you that you might be prosecuted?
       If this is really just about a couple of scratches - only you
       know the extent of the damage - it seems a bit of an
       over-reaction to what ought to be an insurance matter.
       #Post#: 77723--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Careless Driving Charge
   DIR By: forestfox
       Date: June 23, 2025, 8:00 am
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       --- Quote from: ManxTom link ---
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       > Have the police actually charged you or have they simply
       notified you that you might be prosecuted.
       --- End Quote ---
       I was told it was a verbal NIP, so I am assuming yes. I am just
       now waiting on the paperwork and what decision might be, but my
       understanding is that I will definitely have some consequences
       legally.
       I dont know why it took so long for them to come and see me, so
       I really had started to put it out of my mind
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