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PCN 52m Pritchard's road Hackney
DIR By: Tod
Date: June 22, 2025, 5:33 am
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Hi everyone,
My son recently received a PCN (Penalty Charge Notice) after
following Waze blindly. We're not sure if there's anything that
can be done about it. Has anyone experienced something similar
or have any advice?
Thanks in advance for your help!
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Re: PCN 52m Pritchard's road Hackney
DIR By: stamfordman
Date: June 22, 2025, 7:20 am
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Looks like truck may have obscured the right hand sign and
Hackney would need to provide recent pictures of signage.
There are advance traffic signs on all approaches.
We've seen cases coming the other way and the signage is solid.
I don't know if we have any PCN/website issues with Hackney -
Hippo will know.
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Re: PCN 52m Pritchard's road Hackney
DIR By: Tod
Date: June 27, 2025, 4:46 am
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Thanks for the update. Given the possibility that the truck may
have obscured the sign, do you think it's worth waiting to see
the evidence from Hackney, or should we go ahead and challenge
the PCN now? We have few more days since the date we received
the PCN is 19/06
#Post#: 78447--------------------------------------------------
Re: PCN 52m Pritchard's road Hackney
DIR By: H C Andersen
Date: June 27, 2025, 5:38 am
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We're mixing current conditions with 3-years old GSV.
The planters aren't in situ in the video, when the car drove
past the bus stop(which is where one of the planters is seen in
GSV) it's adjacent to the kerb which would be impossible if the
planter(and its integral sign) were as per GSV.
Do we have any current info on the entry signage?
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Re: PCN 52m Pritchard's road Hackney
DIR By: stamfordman
Date: June 27, 2025, 1:23 pm
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This is on one of my regular cycle routes so will check over
weekend.
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Re: PCN 52m Pritchard's road Hackney
DIR By: Tod
Date: June 29, 2025, 10:58 am
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Were you able to see the signs? We'll wait another day before we
proceed.
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Re: PCN 52m Pritchard's road Hackney
DIR By: stamfordman
Date: June 29, 2025, 4:08 pm
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I was stunned by the heat but went out after 6pm and got these -
if the right hand sign was obscured the left is close to a bus
stop sign but is still visible.
Also it could have hard to turnaround if the truck was largely
blocking the side road. There were also roadworks ahead (these
were now behind where I took the shots, blocking the right hand
lane).
As Isaid there are advance traffic signs on all three approaches
but I didn't check these.
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Re: PCN 52m Pritchard's road Hackney
DIR By: Tod
Date: June 29, 2025, 6:35 pm
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Thank you so much for your efforts and help. Do you think we can
have some good grounds to challenge the PCN?
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Re: PCN 52m Pritchard's road Hackney
DIR By: H C Andersen
Date: June 30, 2025, 1:30 am
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If only all photos were as clear!
OP, on the one hand and objectively we have two prominent,
clear, compliant (with the underlying prohibition as far as we
know) and prescribed traffic signs with personal observation
regarding the presence of advance warning signs on all
approaches.
On the other the driver was 'following Waze blindly' and a video
showing, at best, that the sign on the offside might have been
obscured but on the nearside totally unobstructed.
It's always worthwhile submitting reps providing that the
discount is re-offered because you might elicit a procedural
flaw which would support what's known as a 'collateral'
challenge(there are no statutory grounds of 'procedural
impropriety'). If the driver didn't see the signs, then say so
and try and explain in a way which would support a 'terribly
sorry, clean PCN record, will be more diligent in the future'
argument.
IMO, set your expectations at a reasonable level.
Post a draft and wait for views of others regarding procedural
issues.
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Re: PCN 52m Pritchard's road Hackney
DIR By: Tod
Date: June 30, 2025, 6:12 am
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Thank you so much once again for helping us out. I've put
together a draft and would really appreciate any feedback on
whether it's good enough or if any edits are needed.
To whom it may concern,
I am writing to formally challenge the issuance of Penalty
Charge Notice [insert PCN number] issued on [insert date] at
[insert location].
I respectfully ask that you consider the following mitigating
and compelling circumstances which led to this unfortunate
situation:
Navigation App Guidance: I was following directions from the
Waze navigation app, which led me down the restricted route. I
now understand this was incorrect, but I was unaware at the time
and trying to follow the safest and most efficient route as
indicated by the app.
Obscured Signage: At the time of the incident, a large truck was
stationary and completely obscured the relevant traffic signage
on the offside. This prevented me from seeing the restriction in
place until it was too late.
Limited Ability to Turn Around: The same truck was also blocking
the side road, making it very difficult—and unsafe—for me to
turn around once I realized the error. I felt it was safer to
proceed forward rather than risk an abrupt or unsafe maneuver.
Roadworks Ahead: There were active roadworks ahead, further
complicating the road layout and visibility. These works blocked
part of the lane, adding to the confusion and restricting
available space for safe movement.
Genuine Apology and Clean Record: I am terribly sorry for this
unintentional error. I have a clean PCN record and have always
made a sincere effort to abide by road regulations. This was an
honest mistake, and I will be more diligent in future to ensure
full compliance with traffic restrictions.
In light of the above circumstances, I respectfully request that
this PCN be cancelled as a gesture of goodwill and in
recognition of the exceptional and mitigating factors.
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