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Re: Code 53 Harringay Ladder
DIR By: H C Andersen
Date: August 19, 2025, 10:22 am
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Register appeal.
You were not the owner at the material time.
This was Paradise Hotel.
They could not make valid reps on the grounds that you were the
hirer because this ground is limited to hire agreements of no
more than 6 months. The authority's reply acknowledges that it
is a 4-year lease. They could not accept reps on this basis and
therefore you can ot e considered the 'owner', as defined.
Their NOR is also defective.
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Re: Code 53 Harringay Ladder
DIR By: sugarray
Date: August 26, 2025, 10:50 am
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Hi All not sure how to make reprisentations here as its not
allowing me online. Do I have to wait for the notice?
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Re: Code 53 Harringay Ladder
DIR By: John U.K.
Date: August 26, 2025, 11:27 am
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> Hi All not sure how to make reprisentations here as its not
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Where is here ? And who/what is its ?
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Re: Code 53 Harringay Ladder
DIR By: sugarray
Date: August 27, 2025, 8:35 am
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So i went online on haringey to challenge but there isnt
anywhere to challenge just pay and view evidence. Not sure how
to proceed
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Re: Code 53 Harringay Ladder
DIR By: H C Andersen
Date: August 27, 2025, 11:29 am
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You don't go near Haringey, their day as judges in their own
cause is over.
Register your appeal with the Tribunal by following the
instructions in the NOR.
If unsure, come back here.
Grounds:
I was not the owner on the day in question.
Argument. In line with the London Tribunal's Chief Adjudicator's
comments in their Annual Reports, the ability of a registered
keeper to transfer liability on the grounds of being a
'vehicle-hire firm' and there being in existence a 'hiring
agreement', as happened in this case and which representations
were accepted by the authority, is subject to strict examination
in the context of regulations, in particular:
The Road Traffic (Owner Liability) Regulations 2000
Road Traffic Offenders Act 1988.
Specifically in this case:
The vehicle was not supplied to the appellant under a 'hiring
agreement', which by law cannot exceed 6 months' duration, but
under a lease with a term of 4 years. The grounds of being a
'vehicle-hire firm' etc. therefore do not apply and the
authority were not permitted to accept such grounds and issue a
NTO to the lessee, that is to say the appellant.
Further representations to be made upon receipt of the
authority's evidence.
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