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PCN Bus Lane Clapham Road TFL No Reject Form Received
DIR By: MoCo
Date: June 19, 2025, 4:38 pm
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PCN: GX20342342
Car Reg: GJ11 XDB
Authority: Transport for London
I have a long saga with a PCN after driving in a Bus Lane.
Please bear with me as I upload details. This is new to me!
To cut a very long story short. I received a penalty for
entering a bus lane which is outside my friend's house. He has a
horse shoe drive and on the date of the 'offence' I could not
enter the first entrance due to parked cars but carried on to
the 2nd entrance. Which is why for the 1st time in 9 years of
entering the property I received a PCN. The incident happened
on 23 November 2024 and is still dragging on.
Could you please advise me on what further steps I should take.
Potted History:
I sent two representations to TFL but did not receive the reject
notice (RN) for the 2nd notice which was dated 28 April 2025. I
phoned on 2 June and was told it had been sent by email. I asked
them to resend it. I also noted that a charge certificate had
been issued on 2 June. I phoned again on 4 June to say that I
hadn't received the email. I was told that it had been sent by
post. I was also told that once I received the RN I should ring
them and they would halve the £230 penalty. I was also told that
I could appeal online to London Tribunals. I later found out
that London Tribunals only accept postal appeals with the
relevant form that should be included with the RN. I received
the charge certificate on 10 June to be paid on 15 June. I
realise that I now have to wait a week and a day before I can
contact the county court to let them know that I didn't receive
the RN. I finally received the RN on 12 June but it did not
contain the relevant form for forwarding my appeal to London
Tribunal. I phoned and reported this and finally convinced the
customer service operator (CSO) that the form was needed. He
said it would be sent by post, it could not be emailed. Needless
to say I still have not received the form and on Saturday I am
going away for a week. The CSO also said that contrary to what I
had been told previously TFL could not halve the increased
charge.
I have copies of the PCN and video on imgur and will attempt to
use the share link. Cannot find BBCode so posted individually/
HTML https://imgur.com/a/bus-lane-video-qR0Spex
HTML https://imgur.com/a/Xl3p7jD
HTML https://imgur.com/a/bus-lane-history-r6L1VVv
HTML https://maps.app.goo.gl/S94rCU5ZaQR6UpUq5
#Post#: 77268--------------------------------------------------
Re: PCN Bus Lane Clapham Road TFL
DIR By: fraser.mitchell
Date: June 19, 2025, 5:06 pm
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--- Quote from: MoCo link ---
>
> I have a long saga with a PCN after driving in a Bus Lane.
Please bear with me as I upload details. This is new to me!
>
--- End Quote ---
How long must we "bear with you" ? Better not to start a thread
until you've got all your ducks in a row, surely ?
#Post#: 78654--------------------------------------------------
Re: PCN Bus Lane Clapham Road TFL No Reject Form Received
DIR By: MoCo
Date: June 28, 2025, 10:50 am
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Can anyone advise me on sending an appeal to London Tribunals?
The tribunal's website states that 'you should submit your
appeal via the post using the Notice of Appeal form provided to
you by the Enforcement Agency'.
As I previously posted I did not receive the reject notice and
asked for it to be resent. A copy of the notice was eventually
received but the Notice of Appeal Form was not included. I
queried this and was told the form would be sent to me. However
I then received a letter stating that I may appeal to the
tribunal but 'please be advised that we are unable to provide
you with a copy of the appeal form'.
Will my appeal be rejected without the appeal form?
Any advice on submitting appeals to London Tribunals will be
gratefully accepted.
#Post#: 78671--------------------------------------------------
Re: PCN Bus Lane Clapham Road TFL No Reject Form Received
DIR By: H C Andersen
Date: June 28, 2025, 11:52 am
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You can either appeal using our on-line appeal portal using the
verification code supplied by the enforcement authority with the
Notice of Rejection, or by filling in the paper appeal form and
sending it by post to the address shown on the form.
HTML https://www.londontribunals.gov.uk/eat/appeals-process-explained
You do not need the paper copy.
#Post#: 78674--------------------------------------------------
Re: PCN Bus Lane Clapham Road TFL No Reject Form Received
DIR By: MoCo
Date: June 28, 2025, 12:05 pm
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Thank you
#Post#: 78742--------------------------------------------------
Re: PCN Bus Lane Clapham Road TFL No Reject Form Received
DIR By: mrmustard
Date: June 29, 2025, 3:04 am
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TfL do not facilitate online Appeals to the tribunal. The form
is not mandatory. You can post in a copy of the Notice of
Rejection or scan it and email it to the tribunal. Details on
the tribunal website which also provides a contact phone number.
You tell the tribunal you wish to start an Appeal.
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Re: PCN Bus Lane Clapham Road TFL No Reject Form Received
DIR By: Hippocrates
Date: June 29, 2025, 6:01 am
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Well, they sent another member an appeal form. This case will
not be easy so I am up for offering any assistance.
#Post#: 78773--------------------------------------------------
Re: PCN Bus Lane Clapham Road TFL No Reject Form Received
DIR By: MoCo
Date: June 29, 2025, 7:39 am
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Thank you. I have wasted a lot of time waiting for a form that I
now know I didn't need.
I worry that any appeal will be rejected due to being late. I
have accepted Sr. Member's offer of help but everyone's advice
will be welcome. I do want to get the appeal in the post this
week.
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Re: PCN Bus Lane Clapham Road TFL No Reject Form Received
DIR By: mrmustard
Date: June 29, 2025, 8:43 am
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I have now looked at the steps taken on the PCN.
HTML https://i.ibb.co/ZjTXrng/key-steps.jpg
HTML https://ibb.co/07J2Lg9
I am now inclined to think that given that the Notice of
Rejection was not received that the safest course is to await
the Order for Recovery, when the balance increases to £250, and
then file a statutory declaration that the Notice of Rejection
was not received which will then open the door to the tribunal
without running the risk that it will be rejected as out of time
as would be the case with any Appeal made now.
We haven't seen what exactly TfL wrote so if they redated the
rejection this could be sub-optimal advice so all letters from
TfL should be added to this thread so that we can see exactly
what they said (if they have redated the rejection we may not be
out of time). I like to use imgbb.com , set to do not
auto-delete, and then copy and paste the full BB code so we
don't have to look at links, we get the full document on screen.
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Re: PCN Bus Lane Clapham Road TFL No Reject Form Received
DIR By: Hippocrates
Date: June 29, 2025, 10:34 am
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You are in safe hands with mrmustard. I can do no better than to
state that the PCN has serious wording issues in my view. Also,
the last couple I have done, they either messed up their
evidence or did not contest.
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