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#Post#: 77249--------------------------------------------------
Barnet - Parked partially on grass verge (62g) - St Peter's
Court NW4
DIR By: Nat71
Date: June 19, 2025, 3:42 pm
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I was parked with two wheels on the grass verge, on St Peters
Court. There's no Street View available so I've circled in
yellow on Google Earth to show where I was parked.
HTML https://i.imgur.com/eRz0ijt.png
Here's the link to the area:
HTML https://earth.google.com/web/@51.58448679,-0.22041283,70.00082541a,94.14207775d,35y,203.00000216h,0t,0r/data=CgRCAggBOgMKATBCAggASg0I____________ARAA<br
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I don't know if it makes a difference but people have been
parking like this for many years without issue until a warden
suddenly decided that it's considered illegal parking.
Furthermore, that land doesn't function as a footpath so the
cars don't block anyone's way.
Note that there's also a sign to the side saying private land
(although it's likely that the grass verge is part of the
street, which is council-adopted).
Firstly, is it indeed a problem to park there? Secondly, what is
the best way to proceed to cancel this fine.
PCN image doesn't embed so I've attached it.
HTML https://i.imgur.com/q5EeCbG.jpeg
HTML https://i.imgur.com/CANiq3x.jpeg
HTML https://i.imgur.com/wOt8iAe.jpeg
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Re: Barnet - Parked partially on grass verge (62g) - St Peter's
Court NW4
DIR By: stamfordman
Date: June 19, 2025, 6:08 pm
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It's daft to park on any verge or footway in London but you
clearly have a case for what we call legitimate expectation on a
small bit of verge that's not a significant public access area.
What is the Google Maps link to the main road by the start of St
Peter's Court.
#Post#: 77297--------------------------------------------------
Re: Barnet - Parked partially on grass verge (62g) - St Peter's
Court NW4
DIR By: oshkosh
Date: June 20, 2025, 2:41 am
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[member=2249]stamfordman[/member] I think the OP just wants some
helpful comments. If they wanted criticism they probably would
have said so in their post. Let's try and be nice. I know you're
big cheese on the forum but why not keep it friendly so newbies
can come here and get the help they need without being
intimated.
#Post#: 77304--------------------------------------------------
Re: Barnet - Parked partially on grass verge (62g) - St Peter's
Court NW4
DIR By: Nat71
Date: June 20, 2025, 3:04 am
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The main road is Queens Road.
HTML https://www.google.com/maps/place/St+Peter's+Ct,+London+NW4+2HG/@51.5843182,-0.2200529,19z/data=!4m6!3m5!1s0x487610c46871c043:0x471f50f5775f4ba!8m2!3d51.5843855!4d-0.2201546!16s%2Fg%2F11c64n6pq4?utm_campaign=ml-ardl&g_ep=Eg1tbF8yMDI1MDYxNl8wIJvbDyoASAJQAQ%3D%3D
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Re: Barnet - Parked partially on grass verge (62g) - St Peter's
Court NW4
DIR By: stamfordman
Date: June 20, 2025, 6:00 am
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The traffic order map appears to show the council's jurisdiction
in St Peter's Close extends to include that bit of verge but no
further. so I think you'll have to accept they are entitled to
enforce there and they will be probably say that as they
maintain kerbs/verges even though this is a minor bit they can
be damaged by vehicles.
But well worth a challenge on expectation and triviality.
HTML https://i.imgur.com/aJDvceD.png
--- Quote from: oshkosh link ---
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> [member=2249]stamfordman[/member] I think the OP just wants
some helpful comments. If they wanted criticism they probably
would have said so in their post. Let's try and be nice. I know
you're big cheese on the forum but why not keep it friendly so
newbies can come here and get the help they need without being
intimated.
>
--- End Quote ---
Seems you are the one who is intimated (sic)!
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Re: Barnet - Parked partially on grass verge (62g) - St Peter's
Court NW4
DIR By: Nat71
Date: July 15, 2025, 6:41 am
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Hi all, I finally received a response to my informal appeal (see
attached images).
The council maintains that the vehicle could be an obstruction
to pedestrians and also damages the grass.
Is there anything else that can be done to wiggle out of this?
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Re: Barnet - Parked partially on grass verge (62g) - St Peter's
Court NW4
DIR By: stamfordman
Date: July 16, 2025, 10:15 am
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It's a petty PCN but they correct about the verge.
I can only think to put them to the test that it's not private
land but the traffic order map indicates it's just inside their
jurisdiction.
You can ask Mr Mustard if he has anything.
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Re: Barnet - Parked partially on grass verge (62g) - St Peter's
Court NW4
DIR By: Nat71
Date: July 16, 2025, 1:54 pm
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Thanks so much for trying to help.
I'm gonna suck it up and pay. £80 is very steep, when did it
become so expensive :-\
In regards to intimidation, I'm sure you didn't intend to be but
I must say that I was very apprehensive to post on this forum
initially as people seem to be quite curt and impatient with
their responses.
Let's all try be nice to each other! :)
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