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Re: Cambridgeshire County Council, code 34J being in bus lane
(camera enforcement), Emmanuel Road (Outbound)
DIR By: ivanleo
Date: October 17, 2023, 1:45 pm
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So the discount expires on midnight at the end of 29 October
2023. If the amount owed on the council website goes up to £70
before then, you have a winning appeal on the penalty exceeds
ground (in which case you will need a timed / dated screenshot
showing the amount due, I can do that for you).
That also gives us a bit of time to consider other issues so
let's start with the basics: did you not see the signs, or did
you not know what they mean?
For reference, here's the video:
HTML https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EN39XyK_HHc
#Post#: 7681--------------------------------------------------
Re: Cambridgeshire County Council, code 34J being in bus lane
(camera enforcement), Emmanuel Road (Outbound)
DIR By: buscalls
Date: October 18, 2023, 4:40 am
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I didn't see the signs. First time in Cambridge, heavy rain and
trying to figure out where I was going. Below is the GSV on
entering. Had I seen the sign would have still entered because
would have assumed there is a separate bus lane which I wouldn't
drive through. Have never come across such a road layout with a
bus gate suddenly being presented on same road as car travel. I
think referring to this as a bus lane is misleading because
there isn't any bus lane separate to car lane. There is a T
junction sign but for me a T junction is end of road which would
be visibly clear. Approaching a the bus gate a more appropriate
sign would have been red no entry with exception of bus, cycle
etc as I have seen elsewhere. Such a red sign would have caught
attention.
Given the level of fines they are generating from this camera it
is clear the signage and layout isn't being presented fairly imo
HTML https://maps.app.goo.gl/XQMN5R9kGrjRZScP6
#Post#: 7688--------------------------------------------------
Re: Cambridgeshire County Council, code 34J being in bus lane
(camera enforcement), Emmanuel Road (Outbound)
DIR By: fraser.mitchell
Date: October 18, 2023, 5:53 am
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The problem you've got is that after you pass the signs on your
GSV link, there are more signs to pass, so I think you'd
struggle to convince an adjudicator.
Next sign after the roundabout: -
HTML https://maps.app.goo.gl/6DmfqeTjfjEJptEN8
Then this one as you approach the actual restriction: -
HTML https://maps.app.goo.gl/so4AfPUucPJpn7fW7
and finally the actual restriction signs themselves: -
HTML https://maps.app.goo.gl/KWKrWq73eG3ghu6A8
In your narrative you suggest you didn't know what these signs
mean, but as a motorist your are supposed to know what all the
signs mean, this would not win an appeal.
OK, I know when one is in a strange urban environment, it can
get confusing, but that doesn't win adjudications, and with
being unfamiliar with the roads, people tend to use their
satnavs which are always out-of-date.
#Post#: 7765--------------------------------------------------
Re: Cambridgeshire County Council, code 34J being in bus lane
(camera enforcement), Emmanuel Road (Outbound)
DIR By: ivanleo
Date: October 19, 2023, 3:31 am
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As above, I think your only real hope is if the council
increases the penalty prematurely. If that doesn't happen, the
discount is probably best as I can't see anything here that
warrants risking a further £35, as there's no point in throwing
good money after bad.
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Re: Cambridgeshire County Council, code 34J being in bus lane
(camera enforcement), Emmanuel Road (Outbound)
DIR By: Pastmybest
Date: October 19, 2023, 5:08 am
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The PCN states to claim the discount. You do not claim it it is
a statutory right. This has won in the past but to be honest on
its own probably not worth the risk
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Re: Cambridgeshire County Council, code 34J being in bus lane
(camera enforcement), Emmanuel Road (Outbound)
DIR By: buscalls
Date: October 23, 2023, 3:38 am
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Thanks all for the feedback. It will be duly paid now :(
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