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       Fishergate - Cheapside 34J
   DIR By: JaneL
       Date: June 19, 2025, 8:56 am
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       1:14am Fishergate - Cheapside - being in bus lane. Best way I
       can have a go at appealing this? Not sure of the signage and it
       was late. What is there usual line when you point out the intent
       is to aid buses, and that even night buses on that day and time
       aren't going down there?
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       Re: Fishergate - Cheapside 34J
   DIR By: fraser.mitchell
       Date: June 19, 2025, 9:02 am
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       Sorry, no good without documents. Please read this and update
       your thread accordingly: -
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       #Post#: 77515--------------------------------------------------
       Lancanshire 34J Bus Lane Fishergate Cheapside Preston
   DIR By: JaneL
       Date: June 21, 2025, 9:19 am
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       1am bus lane pcn. Not sure of the signage and it was late. Very
       quiet at 1am and changed to 24 hours operation a while back.
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       Re: Fishergate - Cheapside 34J
   DIR By: fraser.mitchell
       Date: June 21, 2025, 7:42 pm
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       The PCN photos don't show you passing Bus Only signs, only
       emerging from a street with Bus Only lanes in the other
       direction. You must have passed the signs some distance back.
       Claiming it was in the small hours for a 24x7 restriction won't
       get the PCNs cancelled, I'm afraid. Were you following satnav ?
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       Re: Fishergate - Cheapside 34J
   DIR By: JaneL
       Date: June 23, 2025, 6:58 am
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       Hi,
       Thanks for the response. I'm not sure if I was using satnav, I
       may have been. Does this effect a challenge I would make?
       Do the photos shown help me to make any kind of challenge to the
       fine, along with anything else, or do you feel at this stage I
       should pay?
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       Re: Fishergate - Cheapside 34J
   DIR By: fraser.mitchell
       Date: June 23, 2025, 8:09 am
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       Plese tell us your route that got you into Fishergate. We need
       to see if signs are adequate at your point of entry.
       #Post#: 77769--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Fishergate - Cheapside 34J
   DIR By: stamfordman
       Date: June 23, 2025, 11:50 am
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       Video shows you well into this zone, which we've seen before. My
       son got a PCN in Fishergate and I failed to get it overturned
       but I can't remember the details.
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       #Post#: 77775--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Fishergate - Cheapside 34J
   DIR By: Phantomcrusader
       Date: June 23, 2025, 12:26 pm
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       Assuming you passed signs like those shown above, there is no
       bus lane signage in place. The only signs placed are signs
       conveying a route restricted to certain vehicles. In this case
       the signs convey that the route is restricted for use by buses,
       pedal cycles and taxis only. Contravening this sign is,
       according to Govt guidance
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       />a moving traffic contravention and not a bus lane
       contravention.
       Therefore the appropriate contravention description is Code 33 -
       Using a route restricted to certain vehicles.
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       Re: Fishergate - Cheapside 34J
   DIR By: JaneL
       Date: June 24, 2025, 3:24 pm
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       I presume I turned further back. I can't see any signs, and it
       seems I may have gone down the wrong way down the one way
       street? I'm not used to driving in the area and am not sure of
       the details, but that is from a quick search.
       Should I write an appeal citing the appropriate contravention
       description Code 33 you mentioned? Will I be able to do it in
       time for the 50 percent discount?
       Thanks
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       Re: Fishergate - Cheapside 34J
   DIR By: JaneL
       Date: June 26, 2025, 8:46 am
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       edit - found it thanks
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