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#Post#: 76638--------------------------------------------------
London Borough of Hounslow - Hanworth Airparks Leisure Centre -
Code 73u Parked without payment/registering
DIR By: throwaway
Date: June 16, 2025, 4:08 am
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Hi all,
Little back story, I parked at Hanworth Airparks Leisure Centre
(GSV below) on 05/06/2025 and was there from 09:37-10:02 but
didn't realise you had to pay/register for parking on the
PayByPhone app. At this location, you're allowed one free
parking sessions per day for up to 4 hours, so in this case
contravention didn't occur. When I got back to my car, I saw the
PCN, then realised that you needed to register (I didn't see any
PayByPhone signs around where I had parked). Unfortunately I've
already made the initial appeal to the council which of course
has been rejected.
I have the exact time I was parked since I use Google Maps and
allow it to track where I go, so I have the timeline of when I
left home, arrived to location, etc, I provided this screenshot
in my appeal. However, as the appeal was rejected I'm not sure
if this is worth waiting for the Notice to Owner form or what
the likelihood is that I can get this overturned.
I've included my appeal below with the screenshots (I do
apologise it's not formally written with the template and cases
usually advised), as well as their response and the PCN.
Any help/advice would be truly appreciated. Thanks so much in
advance and please do let me know if more info is needed.
GSV:
HTML https://maps.app.goo.gl/1i2saNuhkW2c32s36
- Note: Parked on
the left
APPEAL:
Submission Date/Time: 07/06/2025 16:16:58
Reference: NJ42284472
Submission Reference: 9611132
Your Notes:
Hi there, I hope you're well.
I am looking to appeal this PCN as I believe this has been
unfairly issued. Please see the following attachments that
display screenshots of the duration I was at Hanworth Leisure
Centre for on 05/06/2025, what the cost would have been for the
parking, and another screenshot that mentions free parking at
this centre/car park. The first screenshot I would like to
mention is from the PayByPhone app which mentions at the bottom
of the screenshot that the parking limit is up to 4 hours in
between the hours of 08:30-16:30, and that you are allowed one
free parking session per day at this location.
Following from the above, the second screenshot shows my use of
Google Maps which I have track my timeline. This demonstrates my
time at Hanworth Leisure Centre to have only been just over 30
minutes, before I got back in my car and left. This is well
below the 4 hours maximum limit, and also within the one free
parking session per day. In addition to this, after getting back
in my car having received the parking ticket, I immediately went
on the PayByPhone app and to check how much payment would be for
the parking, and saw that there would have been no cost since
this would have been my one and only session/visit to the
centre.
Furthermore, I would like to point out the in the images taken
by the ticket officer does not demonstrate any signs near where
I had parked. After looking around when I received my ticket, I
had only then spotted one sign which was first of all small and
second of all not near or conveniently situated where I had
parked. After going home and looking on Google street view, I
can still stand by the fact that there are hardly any signs for
such a big car park. However, I did end up seeing from Google
street view that there is a sign upon driving in, however I
think this is unfairly positioned, since I had been driving into
a car park where there was a big coach in front of me, I was
concentrating more on making sure I was driving carefully around
the cars and the coach that was carrying school children and
ultimately missed this sign.
To conclude, I would very much appreciate if this PCN could be
reconsidered for the following reasons. The Google Maps tracking
that proves I was only there for 30 minutes, which is way below
the 4 hours maximum limit. This Google Maps screenshot and the
screenshot I took from the PayByPhone app (where I wanted to see
how much parking would have costed me, but payment was £0.00 as
this was the first session/visit) also proves that I only
visited once which is also within the one free parking session
per day. Lastly as mentioned, from the images the ticket officer
has taken, I think this displays how there were no signs around
where I had parked to make it clear to me that I had to register
my car, which even if I registered, there would be no payment
anyway since this is my first visit within all the limits. I
really really do hope you are able to reconsider this PCN due to
all the reasons above, I do believe this is unfair to issue this
on this case where I haven't overstayed any limit.
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#Post#: 76793--------------------------------------------------
Re: London Borough of Hounslow - Hanworth Airparks Leisure
Centre - Code 73u Parked without payment/registering
DIR By: stamfordman
Date: June 16, 2025, 5:25 pm
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We've seen some appeals won at the tribunal where adjudicators
take the view that the contravention of not paying a parking
charge when it's free is nonsense, but mostly I'd say they say
you have to register the session regardless. But the rejection
says you were given the PCN for not paying... so this is
something.
I think signage may be more worthwhile - where is that sign they
show in the rejection?
HTML https://i.imgur.com/dywRTDY.png
I can see only two cases on the register, one refused but this
one allowed but the contravention is the alternative not
displaying.
Case Details
Case reference 2220355291
Appellant Gurpreet Jagpal
Authority London Borough of Hounslow
VRM LE19RHZ
PCN Details
PCN NJ34989905
Contravention date 28 Jan 2022
Contravention time 15:50:00
Contravention location Hanworth Airparks Leisure Centre
Penalty amount N/A
Contravention Parked in car park without clearly display
Referral date -
Decision Date 15 Aug 2022
Adjudicator Carl Teper
Appeal decision Appeal allowed
Direction cancel the Penalty Charge Notice and the Notice to
Owner.
Reasons
The Authority's case is that the Appellant's vehicle was parked
in a car park without displaying a valid pay & display ticket or
voucher or parking clock when in Hanworth Airparks Leisure
Centre car park on 28 January 2022 at 15.50.
The Appellant has explained that he is a member of the gym and
would have been entitled to free parking. He states thta the
signage indicating that payment or a voucher were inadequate.
I have considered the evidence in this case and, on a balance of
probabilities, I find that the signage in this Leisure Centre is
not sufficiently clear and that it is overall inadequate.
The appeal is allowed.
#Post#: 77707--------------------------------------------------
Re: London Borough of Hounslow - Hanworth Airparks Leisure
Centre - Code 73u Parked without payment/registering
DIR By: throwaway
Date: June 23, 2025, 7:24 am
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Hi there,
Thanks for taking a look at this!
Can I ask what the other case was on the register or if there's
a way I can find out myself?
I've attached a couple of screenshots of where the sign was
compared to where I was parked. The Google maps image shows in
red where the sign was and where I had parked, as well as the
route I took to walk to the leisure centre. I saw a friend
walking into the centre and met them halfway, which is why I
took this route rather than a b line from where I parked, so
from that I hadn't seen any signs unfortunately.
It's all a bit frustrating considering I have proof I was only
there for around 30 mins, and it would seem ridiculous to pay so
much for an easy mistake. :-\
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#Post#: 77767--------------------------------------------------
Re: London Borough of Hounslow - Hanworth Airparks Leisure
Centre - Code 73u Parked without payment/registering
DIR By: stamfordman
Date: June 23, 2025, 11:43 am
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The tribunal register is public so you can check it yourself. I
would have posted the other case if it was useful I expect.
I've got cases for other locations where adjudicators have
allowed appeals where the contravention is not paying for a free
session.
#Post#: 77828--------------------------------------------------
Re: London Borough of Hounslow - Hanworth Airparks Leisure
Centre - Code 73u Parked without payment/registering
DIR By: H C Andersen
Date: June 24, 2025, 2:25 am
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The conditions of use are set by what's on site. Can you post a
clear photo of the Ts and Cs noticeboard in the car park.
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