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       #Post#: 81725--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Southwark 50r - prohibited right turn - Lower Road Junction
       Neptune Street
   DIR By: Hippocrates
       Date: July 19, 2025, 2:19 pm
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       You are not going to pay £240 in any case and the website error
       is a very strong point of appeal.
       #Post#: 81730--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Southwark 50r - prohibited right turn - Lower Road Junction
       Neptune Street
   DIR By: Bliss
       Date: July 19, 2025, 3:58 pm
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       --- Quote from: Hippocrates link ---
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       > You are not going to pay £240 in any case and the website
       error is a very strong point of appeal.
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       Do you mind pm or pointing me in the right direction of the law
       of what the website error is so i can file the defence for the
       tribunal? Thank you
       #Post#: 81740--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Southwark 50r - prohibited right turn - Lower Road Junction
       Neptune Street
   DIR By: Hippocrates
       Date: July 20, 2025, 3:54 am
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       Not quite at this stage yet.
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       Re: Southwark 50r - prohibited right turn - Lower Road Junction
       Neptune Street
   DIR By: Bliss
       Date: July 20, 2025, 1:53 pm
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       --- Quote from: Hippocrates link ---
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       >
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       > Not quite at this stage yet.
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       >
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       Thanks for the swift response! So where do I go from here -
       shall I start the appeal now? I've never done this before and am
       worried about the deadlines.
       They rejected my representation on 8th July - and said in 14
       days (which is this Tuesday) the fine will go up from £80.
       Whilst on the website it says the fine will increase on Tuesday
       29th July to £240.
       Thank you in advance.
       #Post#: 81826--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Southwark 50r - prohibited right turn - Lower Road Junction
       Neptune Street
   DIR By: Hippocrates
       Date: July 20, 2025, 4:56 pm
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       You have time.
       #Post#: 82969--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Southwark 50r - prohibited right turn - Lower Road Junction
       Neptune Street
   DIR By: Bliss
       Date: July 27, 2025, 10:20 am
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       --- Quote from: Hippocrates link ---
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       > You have time.
       >
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       Hiya, just wondering what my next steps are please? Do i go
       ahead and appeal for an independent adjudicator online at
       londontribunals website? Are there any points that I
       specifically need to include?
       I assume the ONLY grounds of appeal applicable would be where it
       says 14 days to pay the discount but it was longer? -
       "The penalty exceeded the amount applicable in the circumstances
       of the case. e.g. You are being asked to pay the wrong
       amount for the penalty charge. The Penalty Charge Notice has not
       been served or was served out of time. The Authority should
       normally send you the PCN within 28 days of the alleged
       contravention, but they sometimes have longer."
       Just worried as the council's online portal says the pcn fine
       will go up to £240 tomorrow.
       If I lose the tribunal will I have to pay the £240 - or is it
       the full charge of £160? Or is it worth to just pay the £80 now?
       I'm just really worried about the whole thing and it's stressing
       me out.
       Thank you!
       #Post#: 82973--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Southwark 50r - prohibited right turn - Lower Road Junction
       Neptune Street
   DIR By: fraser.mitchell
       Date: July 27, 2025, 10:51 am
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       If one loses at the adjudicators, London Tribunal, the maximum
       is the full PCN penalty.
       #Post#: 82974--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Southwark 50r - prohibited right turn - Lower Road Junction
       Neptune Street
   DIR By: Bliss
       Date: July 27, 2025, 10:53 am
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       --- Quote from: Incandescent link ---
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       > If one loses at the adjudicators, London Tribunal, the maximum
       is the full PCN penalty.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       So it would be £160 and not the £80 half price discount? But
       then online it says it will go up to £240? Many thanks.
       #Post#: 82987--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Southwark 50r - prohibited right turn - Lower Road Junction
       Neptune Street
   DIR By: fraser.mitchell
       Date: July 27, 2025, 1:41 pm
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       If no response to the PCN is received within the 28 days
       allowed, the council can then serve a Charge Certificate. this
       adds 50% onto the PCN penalty. That's where the £240 comes from.
       #Post#: 83002--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Southwark 50r - prohibited right turn - Lower Road Junction
       Neptune Street
   DIR By: Hippocrates
       Date: July 27, 2025, 2:57 pm
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       --- Quote from: Bliss link ---
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       > [quote author=Incandescent link=topic=6825.msg82973#msg82973
       date=1753631489]
       > If one loses at the adjudicators, London Tribunal, the maximum
       is the full PCN penalty.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       So it would be £160 and not the £80 half price discount? But
       then online it says it will go up to £240? Many thanks.
       [/quote]
       This is the point upon which to appeal.
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