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Upper Ground, Lambeth - code 52 Failing to coply with a
prohibition on certain types of vehicles
DIR By: bertie21980
Date: June 14, 2025, 9:28 am
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Hi again, I received a PCN for going through a motor prohibition
sign without knowing. Here is the PCN...
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There is also a video but I'm not sure how to paste the clip on
this site.
From my knowledge, there is a restriction from one side of this
sign. There is no restriction when coming from the back of this
sign. I had a delivery the national theatre but was trying to
find the stage door which I found out its on a road called stage
door avenue. When I realised I was already past it, I decided to
do u-turn immediately and unfortunately I did it just past this
sign. As mentioned before, I believe there is no sign when
coming from one direction so as I decided to do the u-turn, I
was not aware of any restriction.
As I finished my 3 point turn, I went through the sign. At
present, I can't recall seeing the sign as I went past it.
Here is the google map view...
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Still trying to work out through my head, exactly how this
happened. Normally, I would do a u-turn where there is space to
do so. I'm guessing I thought I had enough space to do the turn
without checking n( obviously I checked for pedestrians and
cyclist etc). Anyway, is there a chance I can appeal as I don't
recall seeing the sign as I went past it?
#Post#: 76472--------------------------------------------------
Re: Upper Ground, Lambeth - code 52 Failing to coply with a
prohibition on certain types of vehicles
DIR By: fraser.mitchell
Date: June 14, 2025, 12:52 pm
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This is a rather odd traffic arrangement. You came up Upper
Ground, and passed Stage Door. Then realising your mistake, you
turned round and drove back, but the street is open to all
traffic in one direction, but traffic from the other direction
just after passing under Waterloo Bridge, is restricted to local
buses. So you would have been unaware of the traffic restriction
until you turned round and drove back to get to Stage Door.
A difficult one to call, so wait a bit until others have
commented. However, if you take them to London Tribunals, I
don't think you have a powerful appeal, although you could point
out there is no warning at all that the street is essentially
one-way for all traffic bar local buses.
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Re: Upper Ground, Lambeth - code 52 Failing to coply with a
prohibition on certain types of vehicles
DIR By: Hippocrates
Date: June 14, 2025, 3:00 pm
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Please screenshot at all times their web page re price
increases and when. I am in the island of Hippocrates but will
draft a representation.
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Re: Upper Ground, Lambeth - code 52 Failing to coply with a
prohibition on certain types of vehicles
DIR By: bertie21980
Date: August 19, 2025, 4:03 pm
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Hi guys, I completely forgot about this pcn and done a appeal
after 28 days. The appeal was rejected and I'm now willing to
pay for it but the discount rate has now finished. They now have
given me a choice of paying the fine of £160 or to appeal to the
traffic adjudicators. What do you guys recommend?
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Re: Upper Ground, Lambeth - code 52 Failing to coply with a
prohibition on certain types of vehicles
DIR By: fraser.mitchell
Date: August 19, 2025, 6:15 pm
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Well, of course you take these rapacious and venal
administrators to London Tribunals ! The PCN penalty remains the
same and there are no additional costs. You have a reasonable
appeal argument, so it could go either way.
At least if you lose they will have had to do at least some work
for their money, and they have to pay the adjudication fee out
of it.
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Re: Upper Ground, Lambeth - code 52 Failing to coply with a
prohibition on certain types of vehicles
DIR By: bertie21980
Date: August 20, 2025, 7:46 pm
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--- Quote from: Incandescent link ---
>
> Well, of course you take these rapacious and venal
administrators to London Tribunals ! The PCN penalty remains the
same and there are no additional costs. You have a reasonable
appeal argument, so it could go either way.
> At least if you lose they will have had to do at least some
work for their money, and they have to pay the adjudication fee
out of it.
>
--- End Quote ---
Thanks for the response. I will take it to the tribunal.
Whatever the result, it will be a big learning curve
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