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Green Parking - simply forgot
DIR By: billeecat
Date: June 13, 2025, 4:51 am
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Hi everyone,
Hopefully someone here can help me. I am a regular user of a
particular station car park managed by Green Parking - 23 times
this year so far. Unfortunately one day last week I simply
forgot to pay via RingGo and, of course, received a Parking
Charge Notice To Keeper requesting payment of a Parking Charge
Notice of £85 (reduced to £40 if paid within 14 days).
Is it worth following the appeals procedure or is there a better
course of action?
Thanks
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Re: Green Parking - simply forgot
DIR By: DWMB2
Date: June 13, 2025, 4:52 am
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Welcome to FTLA.
It is impossible to advise without more information. To help us
provide the best advice, please read the following thread
carefully and provide as much of the information it asks for as
you are able to: READ THIS FIRST - Private Parking Charges Forum
guide
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#Post#: 77662--------------------------------------------------
Re: Green Parking - simply forgot
DIR By: billeecat
Date: June 23, 2025, 4:43 am
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Apologies. I have attached the letter and pics of the signs at
the car park.
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Re: Green Parking - simply forgot
DIR By: billeecat
Date: June 23, 2025, 4:44 am
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And one more
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#Post#: 77669--------------------------------------------------
Re: Green Parking - simply forgot
DIR By: b789
Date: June 23, 2025, 5:11 am
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Any initial appeal is going to be rejected, no matter what is
appealed. However, as this is a BPA member, you will be able to
appeal to POPLA. Follow this advice for now:
Easy one to deal with… as long as the unknown drivers identity
is not revealed. There is no legal obligation on the known
keeper (the recipient of the Notice to Keeper (NtK)) to reveal
the identity of the unknown driver and no inference or
assumptions can be made.
The NtK is not compliant with all the requirements of PoFA which
means that if the unknown driver is not identified, they cannot
transfer liability for the charge from the unknown driver to the
known keeper.
Use the following as your appeal. No need to embellish or remove
anything from it:
--- Quote ---
> I am the keeper of the vehicle and I dispute your 'parking
charge'. I deny any liability or contractual agreement and I
will be making a complaint about your predatory conduct to your
client landowner.
>
> As your Notice to Keeper (NtK) does not fully comply with ALL
the requirements of PoFA 2012, you are unable to hold the keeper
of the vehicle liable for the charge. Partial or even
substantial compliance is not sufficient. There will be no
admission as to who was driving and no inference or assumptions
can be drawn. Green Parking has relied on contract law
allegations of breach against the driver only.
>
> The registered keeper cannot be presumed or inferred to have
been the driver, nor pursued under some twisted interpretation
of the law of agency. Your NtK can only hold the driver liable.
Green Parking have no hope at POPLA, so you are urged to save us
both a complete waste of time and cancel the PCN.
--- End Quote ---
Besides the PoFA failure to be able to hold the Keeper liable,
the sign does not conform to the requirements to be able to form
a contract by conduct. Without a company number, registered
address, or even an explicit statement clarifying Green
Parking's legal status (e.g. “Green Parking Ltd, company number
12345678”), you can argue that there’s no clear identification
of the contracting party.
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Re: Green Parking - simply forgot
DIR By: billeecat
Date: June 26, 2025, 4:45 am
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Thankyou. Doing this right now.
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Re: Green Parking - simply forgot
DIR By: ixxy
Date: June 26, 2025, 7:50 am
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Also with it being station parking it's likely to be covered
under byelaws, not POFA. Don't tell them who was driving and
they have no one to claim against.
#Post#: 84146--------------------------------------------------
Re: Green Parking - simply forgot
DIR By: billeecat
Date: August 5, 2025, 3:51 am
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Hi everyone,
Thankyou for your help so far - it is very much appreciated.
Green Parking did respond rejecting the appeal but did so in a
pdf attachment to an email that was flagged as spam so I have
only just seen it.
I presume next steps is to raise to POPLA but I would love to
hear if there is anything in particular that needs to be said in
order to fight this.
Thanks again.
Text of rejection is as below:
Issue date: 05/06/2025
POPLA Verification Code: ****
Thank you for your appeal received on 26/06/2025 regarding the
above detailed Parking Charge Notice.
We have carefully considered your appeal, however on this
occasion the appeal has been rejected for the
following reason (s) :
Not displaying valid ticket/permit, and no valid parking session
is on any electronic payment system.
Therefore the Parking Charge Notice has been issued correctly.
We have now extended the discounted payment period by 7 days to
allow you time to pay the discounted
settlement amount. Please now make payment of £40.00 to reach us
by 17/07/2025 or £85.00 to reach us by
31/07/2025.
We must advise you that once the discounted settlement rate
passes it will not be offered again.and therefore you
now have two options:-
You can pay the total amount due as shown above via the
following payment options:
Pay online at :
HTML https://green-parking.ec6pay.com/
Send payment to our address :-
1 Golden Court
Richmond
Surrey
TW9 4AZ
You can appeal to an Independent Appeals Service, POPLA (Parking
on Private Land Appeals) using the POPLA
Reference code provided above. Please note, should you decide to
appeal to POPLA and your appeal is
subsequently rejected, the option to pay a discounted amount
will no longer be available and the full amount of
the PCN will become due.
If you decide to appeal to POPLA, you will need to visit their
website,www.popla.co.uk , where further details of
how to appeal (either online or by downloading the relevant
forms) can be found. If you are unable to access their
website, please call us for further information on how to obtain
the forms. Please ensure that your POPLA
Reference Number as noted above is quoted on all correspondence
to POPLA.
You have 28 days from the date of this letter to submit an
appeal to POPLA. If you appeal to POPLA we will
suspend recovery activity on the PCN and the charge will not
increase until the appeal has been determined.
By law we are also required to you that Ombudsman Service
(www.ombudsman-services.org/ ) provides an
alternative dispute resolution service that would be competent
to deal with your appeal. However, we have not
chosen to participate in their alternative dispute resolution
service. As such should you wish to appeal then you
must do so to POPLA, as explained above.
If you do not make payment or submit an appeal to POPLA within
the relevant timeframe, the outstanding PCN
may be passed to our appointed debt collection agency for
further action. All costs associated with this process
will be added to the amount outstanding.
Yours sincerely,
Appeals Department
Green Parking Limited
#Post#: 84149--------------------------------------------------
Re: Green Parking - simply forgot
DIR By: jfollows
Date: August 5, 2025, 4:04 am
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Your POPLA code has expired and can no longer be used.
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Re: Green Parking - simply forgot
DIR By: billeecat
Date: August 5, 2025, 4:08 am
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I only put the **** in the above message but do have a valid
code - it seems to work ok on the POPLA site.
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