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Re: contravention 31J - yellow box - car stalled
DIR By: MELBE
Date: June 23, 2025, 4:03 pm
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22 y old female
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Re: contravention 31J - yellow box - car stalled
DIR By: MELBE
Date: June 23, 2025, 5:04 pm
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thank you ever soooo much
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Re: contravention 31J - yellow box - car stalled
DIR By: MrChips
Date: June 23, 2025, 5:10 pm
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Come back with the rejection notice!
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Re: contravention 31J - yellow box - car stalled
DIR By: MELBE
Date: July 3, 2025, 12:26 pm
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I'm confused. The 14 days end of period of my pcn never spired
and I'm still allowed to pay the reduced amount of £80.
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Re: contravention 31J - yellow box - car stalled
DIR By: H C Andersen
Date: July 3, 2025, 12:53 pm
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When and how did you submit your reps?
The statutory discount period is as has been posted. The council
may at their discretion extend the discount e.g. if reps are
submitted within the statutory period etc.
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Re: contravention 31J - yellow box - car stalled
DIR By: MELBE
Date: July 23, 2025, 6:29 pm
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hi everyone,
Bad news :( :( :(
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Re: contravention 31J - yellow box - car stalled
DIR By: stamfordman
Date: July 23, 2025, 6:59 pm
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"I am unable to cancel the PCN on this occasion" - what happened
- did they suffer a terminal lack of discretion on this
occasion?
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Re: contravention 31J - yellow box - car stalled
DIR By: MrChips
Date: July 24, 2025, 2:28 am
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Not unexpected rejection from Croydon.
They have reoffered the discount if you pay by 28 July (14 days
beginning with date of service which is deemed to be 15 July).
Saying they are unable to cancel the PCN is technically
fettering their discretion. They also say on page 2 that if you
pay the discounted PCN you will have lost the right to appeal to
the tribunal. I'm pretty sure that's incorrect (or at least I
recall Mr Mustard saying that so long as you receive a notice of
rejection you can still appeal even after paying the discount).
I do not know how much (if at all) these points would add weight
to your case as technical arguments.
On the video itself it's a tricky one to say what your odds of
success would be. The rejection letter tells you at point of
entry you need to ensure you can cross without stopping. Well,
that was precisely your argument, that you could have crossed
without stopping going at the speed you were going - but for a
motorcycle coming from the side when you had not given way and
forcing you to stop after (or simultaneous with) your entry into
the box.
See what others think - personally I'd probably try and take
this to the tribunal as I think there is at least a 50% chance
of success, but it will also depend on how risk averse you are
and how much you (or your father!) can afford to risk the extra
£80.
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Re: contravention 31J - yellow box - car stalled
DIR By: mrmustard
Date: July 24, 2025, 3:19 am
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Looking at the position as you entered (as if everything was
stationary) which the adjudicator probably will (as I did a
yellow box case with an adjudicator yesterday who kept slowly
rolling through the same few seconds to be sure of his opinion
and an actual stop) I don't think you stand any chance of
winning at the tribunal. You were never going to clear the box.
50% off and learn from this. If in doubt, stuff the traffic
behind, I'm stopping at the edge of the box until my exit is
guaranteed.
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Re: contravention 31J - yellow box - car stalled
DIR By: MELBE
Date: July 24, 2025, 5:31 am
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The letter is dated 11/07 that makes tomorrow the last day to
pay. I thought I would have chance to win. Do you think other
gurus will come with different ideas to go tribunal, e.g. camera
last proof check for accuracy or the person who check the
recordings or other ideas that maybe still a chance. £80 is
really heavy.
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