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#Post#: 76111--------------------------------------------------
Re: Parking next to a dipped curb
DIR By: zeezee
Date: June 11, 2025, 4:41 pm
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Hi Guys
I went to my dentist today and parked on a nearby road.
When parking, I had a van behind me, so I tried to go as close
to it as possible, making sure my wheel was not adjacent to the
dipped curb, but level or behind.
Have I got this wrong here? - Is it the wheel or start/length of
the car, ie, bonnet?
In the past, I have always parked the car with the wheel behind
the dipped curb as and when the opportunity arose.
Any Advice, as always, is much appreciated.
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#Post#: 76114--------------------------------------------------
Re: Parking next to a dipped curb
DIR By: stamfordman
Date: June 11, 2025, 5:07 pm
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The sloping kerbstone doesn't count so at most the front of your
car is in trivial contravention of the fully lowered part of the
footway, if that.
I would say the contravention did not occur and remind them the
sloping stone doesn't count.
#Post#: 76119--------------------------------------------------
Re: Parking next to a dipped curb
DIR By: fraser.mitchell
Date: June 11, 2025, 5:52 pm
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There would seem to be no contravention, bcause none of the car
intrudes into the dropped section. However the OP needs to be
aware that any part of the car intruding into the dropped length
of kerb is a contravention.
#Post#: 76122--------------------------------------------------
Re: Parking next to a dipped curb
DIR By: zeezee
Date: June 11, 2025, 6:56 pm
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I'm astonished - all these years I've parked near dipped curbs
based on the wheel being part of the car that has to be behind.
So, based on this, the front of my car is, in fact, adjacent to
the dipped curb, and therefore I should be bang to rights and
the contravention did occur - no?
Apologies I am confused here - maybe I need to sleep on it lol
#Post#: 76124--------------------------------------------------
Re: Parking next to a dipped curb
DIR By: fraser.mitchell
Date: June 11, 2025, 7:26 pm
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--- Quote from: zeezee link ---
>
> I'm astonished - all these years I've parked near dipped curbs
based on the wheel being part of the car that has to be behind.
>
> So, based on this, the front of my car is, in fact, adjacent
to the dipped curb, and therefore I should be bang to rights and
the contravention did occur - no?
>
> Apologies I am confused here - maybe I need to sleep on it lol
>
--- End Quote ---
Well, maybe !
Your car is adjacent to the sloping kerbstone which is not part
of the dropped section. However councils disagree with the
adjudicators on this, but they always lose at the adjudicators.
#Post#: 76127--------------------------------------------------
Re: Parking next to a dipped curb
DIR By: John U.K.
Date: June 12, 2025, 1:07 am
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Back in August, Stamfordman discovered this handy text & image
[img width=400
height=160]
HTML https://www.hillingdon.gov.uk/image/1828/Enforceable-dropped-kerb-diagram/gi-responsive__420.png?m=1666970906277[/img]
on Hillingdon's website
HTML https://www.hillingdon.gov.uk/article/4972/Enforcement-of-dropped-kerbs
(scroll down)
which you can use to remind Redbridge (once again!) of the law.
P.S. It's 'dropped kerb',. not 'dipped curb' - sounds picky,
search engines are very picky!
#Post#: 76140--------------------------------------------------
Re: Parking next to a dipped curb
DIR By: stamfordman
Date: June 12, 2025, 3:25 am
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The legislation doesn't refer to a dropped kerb, at least in the
key section 86, just a lowered (or raised) footway or
carriageway although the heading refers to dropped footway:
86 Prohibition of parking at dropped footways etc.
(1)In a special enforcement area a vehicle must not be parked on
the carriageway adjacent to a footway, cycle track or verge
where—
(a)the footway, cycle track or verge has been lowered to meet
the level of the carriageway for the purpose of—
(i)assisting pedestrians crossing the carriageway,
(ii)assisting cyclists entering or leaving the carriageway, or
(iii)assisting vehicles entering or leaving the carriageway
across the footway, cycle track or verge; or
(b)the carriageway has, for a purpose within paragraph (a)(i) to
(iii), been raised to meet the level of the footway, cycle track
or verge.
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Thurrock also has a handy pic.
HTML https://www.thurrock.gov.uk/dropped-kerbs/parking-enforcement-at-dropped-kerbs
HTML https://i.imgur.com/PBbFwIy.png
Bromley:
HTML https://www.bromley.gov.uk/parking/reporting-incorrect-parking/2
HTML https://i.imgur.com/6hM46Vb.png
Merton:
HTML https://www.merton.gov.uk/streets-parking-transport/parking/report
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#Post#: 76179--------------------------------------------------
Re: Parking next to a dipped curb
DIR By: H C Andersen
Date: June 12, 2025, 6:11 am
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OP, your VRM is in view 24/7....except here!
You've cut off every photo to exclude your VRM but unfortunately
this also hides the absolute front of your car which is the part
we need to see.
If none of your car was in contravention - and this has been
explained at length in previous posts - then that's the
argument.
But, if a small part of your car was then the argument would be
de minimis i.e. a trifling amount for which a penalty could not
be demanded.
#Post#: 76182--------------------------------------------------
Re: Parking next to a dipped curb
DIR By: stamfordman
Date: June 12, 2025, 6:18 am
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Id assumed those are the council's pics - if not we need to see
them.
We've had this discussion before - where the pics don't show
anything definitive I'd say no contravention and let the council
argue there is and how much/significance.
#Post#: 76287--------------------------------------------------
Re: Parking next to a dipped curb
DIR By: zeezee
Date: June 12, 2025, 4:10 pm
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Apologies, the above were my pics.
Below are the unredacted pictures from the council website.
They're pretty poor if you ask me, especially the last one taken
at an angle from the opposite side of the road to make it
purposely look like I have parked in the dropped kerb zone!
Crafty beep beep beeps!!!
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