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#Post#: 76022--------------------------------------------------
2 x COFP for speeding in 20mph limit
DIR By: september
Date: June 11, 2025, 9:41 am
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Hi,
I got two NIPs around a month apart for exceeding a 20mph limit.
I sent them back confirming I was the driver.
I now got a Conditional Offer of Fixed Penalty for each, to pay
£100 and 3 points.
I already have 3 points and done the course because I had a
similar issue not so long ago where I had 2 alleged offences of
exceeding 20mph, so I had the course and the other I had to
accept the points.
One of the two that I have now is for driving 24mph, the other
one I don't have anymore the NIP and I can't see what the speed
was, but I know for sure it was also closer to 25 then to 30.
This has been on all 4 occasions.
As I already have 3 points, and accepting the COFP for the
current 2 will end me up with 9 points, I was wondering if there
is anything I can do or ask for taking into account that the
alleged speed.
Thanks for any help
#Post#: 76039--------------------------------------------------
Re: 2 x COFP for speeding in 20mph limit
DIR By: The Slithy Tove
Date: June 11, 2025, 10:29 am
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--- Quote from: september link ---
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> I was wondering if there is anything I can do or ask for
taking into account that the alleged speed.
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Nothing you can ask that will make a jot of difference, as you
have no defence it seems. The only thing you can "do" is to be
really, really careful going forward.
#Post#: 76048--------------------------------------------------
Re: 2 x COFP for speeding in 20mph limit
DIR By: JustLoveCars
Date: June 11, 2025, 11:23 am
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--- Quote from: september link ---
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> ...taking into account that the alleged speed.
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Enforcement starts at 24mph - which is +10%+2mph. Ultimately,
it's in excess of the limit and a CoFP is the cheapest disposal
method.
If you do tot then how the points were accumulated is not
considered so you'll have to be very careful going forwards.
#Post#: 76050--------------------------------------------------
Re: 2 x COFP for speeding in 20mph limit
DIR By: andy_foster
Date: June 11, 2025, 11:35 am
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If there was a defence available, it would depend very much on
the facts - which are very much absent from your grasp at
straws.
The best advice we can offer is to get a sat nav and enable
audible warning for both exceeding speed limits and cameras. And
understand that you still need to rely primarily on the Mk 1
eyeball - the tech is merely there to remind you - it has its
own fallibilities which, unlike the Mk 1 eyeball, are outside of
your control.
Cruise control and/or speed limiters can also reduce the chance
of inadvertently drifting above the limit (or into the
enforcement speeds), but again, these should only be considered
to be secondary measures (cruise set at 30 can be problematic if
the limit changes to 20).
#Post#: 76076--------------------------------------------------
Re: 2 x COFP for speeding in 20mph limit
DIR By: september
Date: June 11, 2025, 2:07 pm
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I don't have the facts because only the NIP letter has a login
to the evidence which by the time the COFP comes I can't log in
anymore. I probably should've downloaded everything when I got
the NIPs.
Thanks for the suggestions though with the 20mph limit there is
a little window between driving too slow (not disturbing the
traffic flow) and reaching the enforcement limit, so it becomes
tricky.
#Post#: 76156--------------------------------------------------
Re: 2 x COFP for speeding in 20mph limit
DIR By: The Slithy Tove
Date: June 12, 2025, 4:26 am
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--- Quote from: september link ---
> ... with the 20mph limit there is a little window between
driving too slow (not disturbing the traffic flow) and reaching
the enforcement limit ...
>
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The "traffic flow" shouldn't be going at more that 20mph anyway.
Just don't be intimidated by others who want to go faster.
#Post#: 76198--------------------------------------------------
Re: 2 x COFP for speeding in 20mph limit
DIR By: september
Date: June 12, 2025, 7:49 am
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Thanks for all advice. I accepted the offer
I am wondering if the magistrates could use compassion for the
penalty points in the same way they can do for the fine
dependable on the seriousness of the offence and the financial
circumstances e.t.c. or is it always the fixed amount
stipulated.
Regards,
#Post#: 76214--------------------------------------------------
Re: 2 x COFP for speeding in 20mph limit
DIR By: BertB
Date: June 12, 2025, 9:04 am
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Against a guilty plea? No.
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