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Re: CDER GROUP TFL
DIR By: stamfordman
Date: June 11, 2025, 8:23 am
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Yes, it is not a personal judgement against you like a CCJ. The
only recourse for the bailiff is to take your goods, and they
usually go for cars (councils can I think go for property/wage
garnishment in extreme cases). I doubt they'll accept a payment
plan given that most of the money is owed to TFL.
#Post#: 76014--------------------------------------------------
Re: CDER GROUP TFL
DIR By: bwolf9999
Date: June 11, 2025, 8:44 am
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Cheers guys, I read that they can put a record of the plan on my
credit file, but I should have just come here, very helpful,
cheers.
They couldnt take a 10k car (for instance) for £325 could they?
Surely not..
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Re: CDER GROUP TFL
DIR By: stamfordman
Date: June 11, 2025, 8:56 am
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--- Quote from: bwolf9999 link ---
>
> Cheers guys, I read that they can put a record of the plan on
my credit file, but I should have just come here, very helpful,
cheers.
>
> They couldnt take a 10k car (for instance) for £325 could
they? Surely not..
>
--- End Quote ---
If you enter into a separate private agreement with a creditor
then that's different but I don't know how bailiff companies
operate such agreements.
An expensive car is likely to be clamped not removed. Or removed
and racking up storage fees but not sold.
#Post#: 76016--------------------------------------------------
Re: CDER GROUP TFL
DIR By: bwolf9999
Date: June 11, 2025, 9:03 am
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Jeez, what a racket
#Post#: 76017--------------------------------------------------
Re: CDER GROUP TFL
DIR By: bwolf9999
Date: June 11, 2025, 9:10 am
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Cant even email them, have to call some bloke on his mobile,
what a pain in the arse
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Re: CDER GROUP TFL
DIR By: bwolf9999
Date: June 11, 2025, 9:13 am
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Sorry for all the messages ! Lol
I just registered for a cder account in the hope i could email
and offer a payment plan , on my file it says that a bailiff
visited my house on the 24th April ! that doesent seem right
does it?
I really dont want to speak with these people on the phone, does
anyone know if i email a central email and offer a plan, will it
get through to the right department?
Thanks again
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Re: CDER GROUP TFL
DIR By: bwolf9999
Date: June 18, 2025, 11:03 am
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Hi all, so this escalated quickly !
Thanks for all the help so far but I really messed up this one.
I found an email address and emailed cder on the 11th after
taking all of your advice asking them for a payment plan.
On the 16th at 4pm they replied saying they couldnt do that over
email and gave me the number of the enforcement agent to call
and ask.
On the morning of the 17th at 7am I had a knock at the door from
said enforcement agent, Ive never had anything like this before
and was mortified, he was expecting trouble and had his back up
from the off, my natural instinct was to kick off but with kids
inside and windows twitching I just wanted him gone.
To my horror it had now grown to £560 !!! Jesus christ, to get
one letter on the 6th asking for payment within 3 days of £325,
to £560 11 later blows my mind.
He turned out to not be a bad bloke I paid him, he showed me a
long list of history of my account on his phone and it was total
and utter boll..s, it had emails on there that I never received
, letters I never received, even a previous visit, and it
stated my address was only updated in May on their records, it
was updated a long long time before that as the traffic
enforcement centre were writing to me at the correct address
months before that.
He said I should fill out forms pe2 and pe3 and he seemed to
think I might get most of it back if I do it correctly, he said
(once his camera was off) to use words like mental health and
depresion. I dont know about that but honesty this letter on the
6th was the first time I had heard from cder so am wondering if
i may have a case ?
Incidentally their email with payment receipt went straight to
junk.
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Re: CDER GROUP TFL
DIR By: H C Andersen
Date: June 18, 2025, 11:39 am
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He said I should fill out forms pe2 and pe3 and he seemed to
think I might get most of it back if I do it correctly
?
Please read BailiffAdviceOnline's post, reply #15.
According to their thorough research, you've already submitted
an OOT application which was rejected on 9 April(hardly
surprising given that you'd submitted an earlier stat dec which
had also been refused).
Given that you're out of time to request a review by a District
Judge, minimum cost £££££, then IMO you've nowhere to go.
Hindsight's wonderful, but had you paid at the compliance fee
stage then £325 would have remained £325.
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Re: CDER GROUP TFL
DIR By: bwolf9999
Date: June 18, 2025, 11:46 am
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Thanks, yes I emailed them to arrange a plan and they didnt come
back to me until a few hours before he arrived, the timescales
they give are pretty ludicrous
I am not really questioning the validity of the pcn anymore but
the fact that cder were writing to me and visiting me at the
wrong address , clearly tfl had not told them, is pe2 and pe3
only to challenge the actual pcn? Is there no way of trying to
get money back ? Not sure why the enforecement agent is telling
me to bother then, but they had a long list of apparent contact
via email, post and visits which did not happen
#Post#: 77059--------------------------------------------------
Re: CDER GROUP TFL
DIR By: H C Andersen
Date: June 18, 2025, 12:11 pm
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Wait for BAO, but you are involved in 2 separate but liked
procedures:
As regards enforcement of warrants etc.
HTML https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2007/15/schedule/12
As regards enforcement of penalty charges:
HTML https://www.londontribunals.gov.uk/eat/understanding-enforcement-process/moving-traffic-pcn-enforcement-process
Can we just deal with the enforcement agent's actions, yours in
response and the outcome.
On *** you received by post/by hand (whichever) a Notice of
Enforcement dated ***. In response you 'emailed them to arrange
a plan and they didnt come back to me until a few hours before
he arrived'...by virtue of which the debt was increased by £235.
We need to see this email. Did you ask to see the warrant/was it
produced(whether you asked for it or not)?
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