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#Post#: 75175--------------------------------------------------
NIP 2 months later
DIR By: Slammed 66
Date: June 6, 2025, 12:14 pm
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Hello. First time poster here, though I did used to use pepipoo.
Basically, I was pulled over on the side of the road by an
officer for speeding on 9/4/25 and I just received the NIP today
(6/6/25).
I read somewhere that after 14 days if I’d not received the NIP
that I could appeal it as it should have come within that
timeframe. Now that it’s pretty much 2 months later and it’s
only just arrived, is there a way of getting out of it? The date
of issue on the NIP is 3/6/25.
I’m not fussed about the £100 fine but as I’m just about to
become a taxi driver, I could really do without the points.
Many thanks
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Re: NIP 2 months later
DIR By: NewJudge
Date: June 6, 2025, 12:35 pm
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No NIP is necessary because (presumably) you were warned at the
roadside that you might be prosecuted.
Presumably what you have is a "Conditional Offer of a Fixed
Penalty".
If it is, and you are going to accept it, make sure that as well
as paying the £100 you also submit your driving licence details
as instructed.
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Re: NIP 2 months later
DIR By: andy_foster
Date: June 6, 2025, 12:47 pm
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I have removed the photo of the COFP (which is not a NIP),
partly because it is utterly irrelevant, but mostly because it
was unredacted.
As you would know if you had bothered to read the "***READ THIS
FIRST***" sticky at the top of this forum, to successfully
defend a speeding charge, you generally need more than simply a
desire to avoid the consequences of being convicted, and in
order to offer meaningful advice we need more information than
that you want to avoid the points (and couldn't be bothered to
read the READ THIS FIRST post, or redact your personal details
from the COFP (or tell us that it was a COFP, rather than
telling us it was a NIP)).
If the COFP had any defects, and if we were somehow able to
ascertain that, that would not help, as a defective COFP (in not
accepted within the suspended enforcement period) provides no
defence to subsequent prosecution instigated after the
expiration of the suspended enforcement period (DPP v Holden).
#Post#: 75185--------------------------------------------------
Re: NIP 2 months later
DIR By: Slammed 66
Date: June 6, 2025, 12:57 pm
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My apologies Andy. I rushed into this a bit.
Firstly, it wasn’t a case of “couldn’t be bothered to read”, I
genuinely didn’t even see that part.
Secondly, I appear to have gotten my wires crossed with a NIP
and a COFP.
I’ve just been googling and it would seem that the 14 day rule
only applies to NIP and not what I have received. So again, I
apologise for have got muddled up.
I can’t defend the speeding charge as it was measured on a laser
device and I admitted it at the roadside. I had heard from many
sources though that I wouldn’t have to take the points if it was
longer than 14 days for my fine to arrive which would appear to
have been misinformation.
I’m not looking for an argument or a telling off. I’m just
hoping someone could tell me if I have to take the points or if
I can appeal them due to the length of time involved.
Thanks
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Re: NIP 2 months later
DIR By: Southpaw82
Date: June 6, 2025, 1:34 pm
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--- Quote from: Slammed 66 link ---
>
> I had heard from many sources though that I wouldn’t have to
take the points if it was longer than 14 days for my fine to
arrive which would appear to have been misinformation.
--- End Quote ---
There are that many sources telling you that “the fine” has to
arrive within 14 days? Really? Like where?
--- Quote ---
> I’m just hoping someone could tell me if I have to take the
points or if I can appeal them due to the length of time
involved.
>
--- End Quote ---
Asked and answered.
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Re: NIP 2 months later
DIR By: Dave Green
Date: June 6, 2025, 1:37 pm
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--- Quote from: Slammed 66 link ---
> I’m not looking for an argument or a telling off. I’m just
hoping someone could tell me if I have to take the points or if
I can appeal them due to the length of time involved.
--- End Quote ---
The police have up to 6 months from the date of the offence to
begin court proceedings and as it's only 2 months since you were
were stopped and informed that you may be prosecuted, they are
well within the time allowed.
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Re: NIP 2 months later
DIR By: Slammed 66
Date: June 6, 2025, 1:49 pm
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Well, this thread went down like a lead balloon 😄
Nonetheless, thanks all for the replies and setting me straight
👍🏻
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