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       #Post#: 74839--------------------------------------------------
       Bailiff - Haringey Council - code 12(r) parked in residents bay
       - Gathorne Road 
   DIR By: lumphallway786
       Date: June 4, 2025, 2:32 pm
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       Hi all, please help me as I am stressing about two letters sent
       to me by CDER Group.
       I received a PCN for parking in a residents bay in September
       2024.  I paid for parking up until 6:30pm at which time the bay
       becomes residents only.  I did not realise this as English is
       not my first language and a PCN was issued approximately 6:45pm.
       Unfortunately due to a series of events (I was evicted and
       placed into temporary accommodation) I lost the PCN and have
       since not updated the V5c until recently.  I forgot about the
       PCN.
       Today an old housemate handed me a stack of letters from my old
       address.  One of which is a notice of enforcement dated
       20/03/2025 with a deadline to pay £280 by 6am on the 30/03/2025
       and a second letter stating an enforcement officer had visited
       with intent to take control of goods after a court order.  The
       cost has increased to £515.
       I am on universal credit and can't possibly afford to pay this.
       My car is on a hire purchase agreement.  I understand that I had
       not updated my V5c but is there any advice please?
       #Post#: 74849--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Bailiff - Haringey Council - code 12(r) parked in residents
       bay - Gathorne Road 
   DIR By: fraser.mitchell
       Date: June 4, 2025, 4:56 pm
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       SO, essentially, you received the PCN and ignored it, then lost
       it. You did not update your V5C so did not get any of these
       statutory enforcement documents that might have forced you into
       action: -
       - Notice to Owner
       - Charge Certificate
       - Order for Recovery
       The bailiff amount will be made up as follows
       PCN £130
       CC  £65
       OfR £10
       Bailiff letter £75
       Bailiff visit fee £235
       Making £515
       I have looked at the possibility of submitting an Out-of-Time
       Witness Statement, but none of the circumstances listed on the
       WS match yours. I would suggest you contact : -
       www.bailiffadviceonline.co.uk
       to see what might be done, but it isn't looking good, sorry to
       have to say it. However, Regulation 12 of The Taking Control of
       Goods (Fees) Regulations 2014 may be relevant to your case,
       based what you have said about being evicted etc
  HTML https://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/2014/1/regulation/12
       #Post#: 74871--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Bailiff - Haringey Council - code 12(r) parked in residents
       bay - Gathorne Road 
   DIR By: lumphallway786
       Date: June 5, 2025, 2:31 am
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       Thanks for your reply.
       I was given all of the post that had been sent and there was no
       notice to owner, charge certificate or order for recovery, only
       the two letters mentioned in my first post.  Is this relevant in
       any way please?
       I fully accept that this is my fault and I should have updated
       my V5c as soon as I had moved into my current home.
       #Post#: 74884--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Bailiff - Haringey Council - code 12(r) parked in residents
       bay - Gathorne Road 
   DIR By: fraser.mitchell
       Date: June 5, 2025, 4:51 am
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       --- Quote from: lumphallway786 link ---
       >
       > Thanks for your reply.
       >
       > I was given all of the post that had been sent and there was
       no notice to owner, charge certificate or order for recovery,
       only the two letters mentioned in my first post.  Is this
       relevant in any way please?
       >
       > I fully accept that this is my fault and I should have updated
       my V5c as soon as I had moved into my current home.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       I can only reiterate that contacting the website I gave the
       address of, may help to identify any options you may have
       available. As it stands, you cannot submit a Witness Statement,
       because none of the circumstances listed on the form match
       yours.
       #Post#: 74888--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Bailiff - Haringey Council - code 12(r) parked in residents
       bay - Gathorne Road 
   DIR By: lumphallway786
       Date: June 5, 2025, 5:02 am
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       Thank you again for your help.  I have contacted the website
       this morning and hopefully they can assist.
       #Post#: 74893--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Bailiff - Haringey Council - code 12(r) parked in residents
       bay - Gathorne Road 
   DIR By: stamfordman
       Date: June 5, 2025, 5:48 am
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       So where was the car registered? At a previous address to the
       previous address?
       It sounds like they'll need a new warrant to track you down at
       your current address.
       Also I think they can't clamp a car on hire purchase but it
       depends on the type of finance.
       Shiela at Bailiffadvice is your best bet.
       #Post#: 74898--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Bailiff - Haringey Council - code 12(r) parked in residents
       bay - Gathorne Road 
   DIR By: lumphallway786
       Date: June 5, 2025, 6:16 am
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       The car has been registered at my old address that I was evicted
       from for a couple of years, so any post sent would have all been
       together in the stack I received yesterday.
       I am waiting for an email or call back from bailiffadvice.
       Thanks
       #Post#: 74900--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Bailiff - Haringey Council - code 12(r) parked in residents
       bay - Gathorne Road 
   DIR By: H C Andersen
       Date: June 5, 2025, 6:22 am
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       'My car is on a hire purchase agreement.'.
       Just to be clear, the car you have now is the same as the one
       involved in the contravention(the relevant car)? If not, did you
       own the relevant car or was this perhaps hired/leased?
       #Post#: 74902--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Bailiff - Haringey Council - code 12(r) parked in residents
       bay - Gathorne Road 
   DIR By: lumphallway786
       Date: June 5, 2025, 6:31 am
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       Hi, yes it is the same car I've had for a couple of years.
       Thanks
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