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PCN notice to owner from liverpool council
DIR By: TF
Date: June 4, 2025, 5:30 am
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@cp8759 -, I visited my daughter and parked out side her
apartment building, the road where i parked has permit holders
parking only signs on the opposite side of the street where
there are parking spots, the side I parked on did not have any
signs apart from one that stated no stopping , mon -fri 8 AM -
5PM on entrance markings , so I made sure I was not on the
yellow entrance markings, upon my return I noticed a parking
charge on my car, I made an informal complaint stating there
were no signs on my side of the street to say no parking and
they rejected it, sending me the pictures if my car, and a
picture of the sign from the opposite side of the street then
proceed to send me a NtO.
My question is, where do I stand, is this charge unenforceable?
I have read a few sites and they state signs have to be on both
sides of the street clearly in veiw of the driver
I have atached the NtO, and picture of my car, with the permit
holders parking only sign on the opposite side of the street,
the sign that was on my side and a veiw of the the side of the
street i parked, clearly no permit holders parking only sign
there
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#Post#: 74716--------------------------------------------------
Re: PCN notice to owner from liverpool council
DIR By: stamfordman
Date: June 4, 2025, 5:48 am
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You were in a marked parking bay and it does appear there is no
parking sign in the bay. A picture of a sign in another bay
won't do.
No sign = no contravention.
I think this is a controlled parking zone - they seem to have
omitted a yellow line in the no stopping zone too.
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Re: PCN notice to owner from liverpool council
DIR By: TF
Date: June 4, 2025, 5:56 am
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Thank you for your reply
So I was right, so I just put a formal Complaint in? Am new to
this and don't want to get it wrong I just can not believe the
cheek of the council, they dismissed it they probably didn't
even look at it correctly
#Post#: 74751--------------------------------------------------
Re: PCN notice to owner from liverpool council
DIR By: fraser.mitchell
Date: June 4, 2025, 9:13 am
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--- Quote from: TF link ---
>
> Thank you for your reply
> So I was right, so I just put a formal Complaint in? Am new to
this and don't want to get it wrong I just can not believe the
cheek of the council, they dismissed it they probably didn't
even look at it correctly
>
--- End Quote ---
You must respond to the Notice to Owner. OK, you may raise a
complaint, but you must follow the process, I'm afraid, or it's
game over.
#Post#: 74754--------------------------------------------------
Re: PCN notice to owner from liverpool council
DIR By: H C Andersen
Date: June 4, 2025, 9:15 am
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+1.
Post the PCN, both sides, your initial reps, their response and
confirm the NTO is addressed to you pl.
Let's get all relevant info in play.
NTO dated 29 May therefore representations should be made no
later than 29 June.(posted Thurs. 29 May, therefore deemed
served Mon.2 June which is day 1 of the 28-day period).
You have plenty of time.
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Re: PCN notice to owner from liverpool council
DIR By: TF
Date: June 4, 2025, 9:46 am
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Thank you , I have attached the otherside plus page 3 and 4
I confirm that this is addressed to me at my home address
Please let me know if I need to add anything else here
Thanks again for all the help received
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Re: PCN notice to owner from liverpool council
DIR By: TF
Date: June 4, 2025, 9:51 am
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Also this is the first letter I received after I disputed the
charge
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Re: PCN notice to owner from liverpool council
DIR By: stamfordman
Date: June 4, 2025, 10:30 am
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You pointed out no sign on your side which they ignored, but I
expect you didn't say explicitly you were in a marked bay that
had no sign - that will be the grounds for representations, plus
saying the signage point wasn't addressed at first stage.
I've checked and the street is in the Liverpool outer controlled
zone. They also use permit parking areas but this isn't one as
there would not be signed resident bays. There doesn't seem to
have been a parking sign in that bay stepping back in Maps time.
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Re: PCN notice to owner from liverpool council
DIR By: TF
Date: June 4, 2025, 10:40 am
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No i didn't state that i just said there was no parking sign, I
will in my formal letter.
My daughter has parked there no problem, and a traffic warden
actually told my husband it was free and no permit needed as
that was the other side but obviously we can not prove this.
Do I wait? as I read the rules and it said to wait 7 to 10 days
for all the evidence to be gathered
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Re: PCN notice to owner from liverpool council
DIR By: TF
Date: June 4, 2025, 10:45 am
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I have screen shot my informal complaint
It states i can supply photos, but I did actually attach them
when sent
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