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#Post#: 85268--------------------------------------------------
Re: Lambeth 01a - Parked in a restricted street during
prescribed hours (temporary t
DIR By: Hippocrates
Date: August 12, 2025, 3:52 am
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--- Quote from: gge12 link ---
>
> Earlier rejection addressed to me and NTO addressed to her
confusingly. Maybe it's because I have previous with them in
this car!
>
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No it's because they don't the registered keeper's address until
NTO time.
#Post#: 85282--------------------------------------------------
Re: Lambeth 01a - Parked in a restricted street during
prescribed hours (temporary t
DIR By: H C Andersen
Date: August 12, 2025, 5:29 am
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As regards formal reps, I'd submit the same as before but with a
slight change.
PCN *******
On *** informal representations were made against this PCN, the
central theme of which was the council's failure to ensure the
placing 'on or near the road of such traffic signs in such
positions as the order making authority may consider requisite
for securing that adequate information as to the effect of the
order is made available to persons using the road' contrary to
The Local Authorities’ Traffic Orders (Procedure) (England and
Wales) Regulations 1996 and the council's Temporary Traffic
Order which created the restriction. Those representations set
out the legal framework in detail.
On ** the authority rejected those representations in a manner
which could best be described as off-hand without any attempt to
address the grounds in detail and in the mistaken belief that a
traffic order is a traffic sign whose display meets the
council's LATOR obligations.
Those representations are herewith submitted as my formal
representations and, in accordance with the Secretary of State's
statutory guidance, should these be rejected the authority is
required to 'give the owner clear and full reasons for its
decision..,', failure to do which may be seen as
'maladministration'.
Yours
Wait for comments.
#Post#: 85339--------------------------------------------------
Re: Lambeth 01a - Parked in a restricted street during
prescribed hours (temporary t
DIR By: gge12
Date: August 12, 2025, 8:37 am
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Thanks will submit the above. Should I also include mention of
Lambeth's online requests to pay the fine even after I had
submitted my initial appeal? I'm aware this point alone has
successfully won cases at tribunal (please screenshot in my
earlier post on the 1st page of this thread).
#Post#: 85455--------------------------------------------------
Re: Lambeth 01a - Parked in a restricted street during
prescribed hours (temporary t
DIR By: gge12
Date: August 13, 2025, 4:13 am
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--- Quote from: H C Andersen link ---
>
> As regards formal reps, I'd submit the same as before but with
a slight change.
>
> PCN *******
>
> On *** informal representations were made against this PCN,
the central theme of which was the council's failure to ensure
the placing 'on or near the road of such traffic signs in such
positions as the order making authority may consider requisite
for securing that adequate information as to the effect of the
order is made available to persons using the road' contrary to
The Local Authorities’ Traffic Orders (Procedure) (England and
Wales) Regulations 1996 and the council's Temporary Traffic
Order which created the restriction. Those representations set
out the legal framework in detail.
>
> On ** the authority rejected those representations in a manner
which could best be described as off-hand without any attempt to
address the grounds in detail and in the mistaken belief that a
traffic order is a traffic sign whose display meets the
council's LATOR obligations.
>
> Those representations are herewith submitted as my formal
representations and, in accordance with the Secretary of State's
statutory guidance, should these be rejected the authority is
required to 'give the owner clear and full reasons for its
decision..,', failure to do which may be seen as
'maladministration'.
>
> Yours
>
>
> Wait for comments.
>
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So would this count as procedural impropriety on the part of the
enforcement authority? I need to choose the grounds for my
representation.
#Post#: 85468--------------------------------------------------
Re: Lambeth 01a - Parked in a restricted street during
prescribed hours (temporary t
DIR By: H C Andersen
Date: August 13, 2025, 5:42 am
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Your grounds are that the contravention did not occur.
The rest of my draft is a warning to them that any NOR must
contain cogent reasons, not just 'we have considered...we
disagree'.
#Post#: 91419--------------------------------------------------
Re: Lambeth 01a - Parked in a restricted street during
prescribed hours (temporary t
DIR By: gge12
Date: September 25, 2025, 5:47 am
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Only just got a response from Lambeth rejecting my formal
appeal. We moved house just after the challenge was made and
despite providing our new address in my representations and
changing address with the DVLA, they still sent it to our old
address. Therefore we have had to call and request online for
them to send a copy and they have emailed it in a PDF (please
see below).
HTML https://imgur.com/a/5CW6fT8
#Post#: 91447--------------------------------------------------
Re: Lambeth 01a - Parked in a restricted street during
prescribed hours (temporary t
DIR By: H C Andersen
Date: September 25, 2025, 7:27 am
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So many procedural improprieties, it's as if they simply want
the keeper to appeal and for them to not contest.
But first, pl post your reps.
If 'We moved house just after the challenge was made and despite
providing our new address in my representations' is as clear in
the formal reps as you imply, then this is another procedural
impropriety.
#Post#: 91456--------------------------------------------------
Re: Lambeth 01a - Parked in a restricted street during
prescribed hours (temporary t
DIR By: gge12
Date: September 25, 2025, 7:55 am
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I used the reps that you advised above verbatim and now want to
go to Tribunal with these points, the lack of signage, mix up of
dates on Lambeth's website and the address error!
#Post#: 91594--------------------------------------------------
Re: Lambeth 01a - Parked in a restricted street during
prescribed hours (temporary t
DIR By: gge12
Date: September 26, 2025, 5:07 am
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Can anyone support with the tribunal step please?
#Post#: 92237--------------------------------------------------
Re: Lambeth 01a - Parked in a restricted street during
prescribed hours (temporary t
DIR By: gge12
Date: September 30, 2025, 3:21 pm
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Anyone?
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