DIR Return Create A Forum - Home
---------------------------------------------------------
FreeTrafficLegalAdvice
HTML https://ftla.createaforum.com
---------------------------------------------------------
*****************************************************
DIR Return to: Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so ...
*****************************************************
#Post#: 74273--------------------------------------------------
Lambeth 01a - Parked in a restricted street during prescribed
hours (temporary t
DIR By: gge12
Date: June 2, 2025, 5:19 am
---------------------------------------------------------
Dear all, received the above PCN yesterday next to Brockwell
Park. I tried to read the traffic order sign but couldn't make
any sense out of it and saw the big yellow 'permit holders only'
sign on the other side of the road so didn't think there was any
issue with parking there.
HTML https://imgur.com/a/xNBTveD
#Post#: 74277--------------------------------------------------
Re: Lambeth 01a - Parked in a restricted street during
prescribed hours (temporary t
DIR By: fraser.mitchell
Date: June 2, 2025, 5:28 am
---------------------------------------------------------
The main sign shows permit holders 'HR'. The event days sign
just says "permit holders only', the assumption being that the
main sign governs the permit code.
So assuming you parked on the side for permit holders, are you
an 'HR' permit holder ?
As regards the traffic order sign, this is just advice. To
implement it, they must erect adequate signage that informs the
motorist what the restrictions are. It would seem they have
done this, but wait for others to comment.
#Post#: 74287--------------------------------------------------
Re: Lambeth 01a - Parked in a restricted street during
prescribed hours (temporary t
DIR By: stamfordman
Date: June 2, 2025, 5:44 am
---------------------------------------------------------
I can't see the sign you took a pic of creates a waiting
restriction - the contravention you have is an 01 (like for a
yellow line).
HTML https://i.ibb.co/rRLZvvyG/image.png
----------
Council pics show no sign.
HTML https://i.ibb.co/9HG0dVzs/l6.jpg
HTML https://i.ibb.co/SDyqTZzJ/l4.jpg
HTML https://i.ibb.co/gMRVT5YZ/l3.jpg
HTML https://i.ibb.co/zVRrvy99/l2.jpg
HTML https://i.ibb.co/Y73yVhRr/l1.jpg
#Post#: 74301--------------------------------------------------
Re: Lambeth 01a - Parked in a restricted street during
prescribed hours (temporary t
DIR By: gge12
Date: June 2, 2025, 7:47 am
---------------------------------------------------------
Just to clarify, the yellow 'permit holders only' sign was on
the other side of the road to where I was parked. I am not a
resident permit holder. I merely highlighted that because I
thought that was the only temporary restriction in place on the
road, which is why I parked on the opposite side. The signs on
the side I was parked on are the white paper ones which I could
not make sense of.
#Post#: 74340--------------------------------------------------
Re: Lambeth 01a - Parked in a restricted street during
prescribed hours (temporary t
DIR By: stamfordman
Date: June 2, 2025, 11:32 am
---------------------------------------------------------
Yes I saw it wasn't on your side but there are probably signs
elsewhere.
But I don't think there is a sign that substantiates the
contravention. See what others say.
#Post#: 74346--------------------------------------------------
Re: Lambeth 01a - Parked in a restricted street during
prescribed hours (temporary t
DIR By: H C Andersen
Date: June 2, 2025, 11:49 am
---------------------------------------------------------
Nothing to do with the traffic sign per se, whether on your side
of the road or not. It's a 'temporary traffic order'
contravention i.e. the laminated paper you see on the post is a
copy of a temporary traffic order suspending the use of the bay
or part thereof and substituting a waiting restriction which
does not need a yellow line.
OP, we need to see that order - a readable photo pl. Or get a
copy from the council. Maybe there's one online.
#Post#: 74370--------------------------------------------------
Re: Lambeth 01a - Parked in a restricted street during
prescribed hours (temporary t
DIR By: gge12
Date: June 2, 2025, 1:17 pm
---------------------------------------------------------
The pictures of the notice I took at the time are in my original
post Imgur link and they are barely legible, hence my confusion.
If you notice, the back of the order is obscured by the cable
tie that attaches it to the lamppost and it's not even
laminated. Feels to me like it's been scribbled on the back of a
fag packet which is why I think I have a case here. Loads of
people were caught out and we park in this same location most
Sundays and had no idea.
Managed to find the order on Lambeth's website:
HTML https://www.lambeth.gov.uk/sites/default/files/2025-05/597_Brockwell_Park_2025_NoM_09-05-25.pdf
#Post#: 74401--------------------------------------------------
Re: Lambeth 01a - Parked in a restricted street during
prescribed hours (temporary t
DIR By: H C Andersen
Date: June 2, 2025, 4:19 pm
---------------------------------------------------------
Thanks for the order.
And were you in the 'banned' area in Schedule 1?
The sign regarding 'permit holders only' is, of course,
b******s. The order BANS waiting, it does not differentiate
between classes of user.
Pl post a GSV showing where you were parked. Let's take this
apart bit by bit.
#Post#: 74454--------------------------------------------------
Re: Lambeth 01a - Parked in a restricted street during
prescribed hours (temporary t
DIR By: gge12
Date: June 3, 2025, 1:32 am
---------------------------------------------------------
Yes, having been able to actually read the order retrospectively
online, I was in Schedule 1.
GSV:
HTML https://maps.app.goo.gl/24bnY5W99sqdHKk19?g_st=ac
#Post#: 74459--------------------------------------------------
Re: Lambeth 01a - Parked in a restricted street during
prescribed hours (temporary t
DIR By: H C Andersen
Date: June 3, 2025, 1:58 am
---------------------------------------------------------
Your photo of the 'event day' yellow sign is confusing matters
because it's on the other side of the road.
The CEO's photos don't show a traffic sign, only an illegible
laminated single sheet of A4 attached to a post, in this case
the only post within the parking bay.
Any chance of getting a photo of the sign in your bay(including
the laminated sheet in the same shot?). I ask because, as a
minimum, it had to be covered because you cannot have the lawful
right to park in a parking place suspended by order and replaced
with a 'No waiting' restriction while still exhibiting the
normal parking place traffic sign.
There's also the Temp Traffic Order regs to look at, but one
step at a time. The 14-day period ends on 14 June...on which
point, pl post the back of the PCN.
*****************************************************
Page 1 of 5
DIR Next Page