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Re: ParkingEye PCN - Challaborough Bay P&D - No purchase of
appropriate time
DIR By: RBDO
Date: June 12, 2025, 12:01 pm
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Thanks b; I will post a reply once I have done the necessary
research and composed one.
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Re: ParkingEye PCN - Challaborough Bay P&D - No purchase of
appropriate time
DIR By: Vivj
Date: June 12, 2025, 1:54 pm
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Hi, interested to read this thread: On the 25th May I arrived at
Challaborough Bay and pulled into the car park. I went to the
machine to pay and the machine - although having power - would
accept neither card, nor contactless, nor cash payment.I thus
went to the sign assuming there would be an alternative payment
option, which there was.
However, when i tried scanning the QR code to download the app,
I discovered I had absolutely no service at all - including any
signal to be able to call the number on the machine provided by
a sign that said: 'if there are any issues with the payment
machine please contact our helpline on: 0330 555 4444' with
an'evology' logo.
I had exactly the same experience the previous day 24/5 and
received the pcn on 29th as you did. Also received rejected
appeal notice today. Not only us, but discovered on the
Challaborough Facebook page that this has been happening since
autumn 2023. How is this fair?? I have a photo of the reg
numbers of others who were unable to pay. Could we somehow get
together to make a case here?
#Post#: 76325--------------------------------------------------
Re: ParkingEye PCN - Challaborough Bay P&D - No purchase of
appropriate time
DIR By: b789
Date: June 13, 2025, 4:12 am
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[member=5850]Vivj[/member], please start your won thread if you
want advice and assistance. We can't deal with two separate
cases in a single thread as it becomes unmanageable, even if the
circumstances are identical.
READ THIS FIRST - Private Parking Charges Forum guide
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#Post#: 76681--------------------------------------------------
Re: ParkingEye PCN - Challaborough Bay P&D - No purchase of
appropriate time
DIR By: RBDO
Date: June 16, 2025, 6:41 am
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I’m wondering if a POPLA appeal is worth it, and I should just
wait for court proceedings?
Having studied the PPSSCOP I cannot see any technicality I can
argue my case on, and will be relying on the mitigating
circumstances of the case - unless I there is some issue I can
raise re 3.1.1-3.1.7 and 6.1.1 and 6.1.2 regarding signage. I
would need to go back and get a clearer picture than I have
currently available to make a judgement on this.
Am I missing any specific valid basis directly from the PPSSCOP?
6.1.2.c) describes what is needed if payment cannot be made; I
guess I will need to go back and check the sign for these
specifics; all I remember is a QR code for payment app and a
phone number for reports of failure. Don’t remember any
“consequences” listed, but I will have to confirm.
#Post#: 88522--------------------------------------------------
Re: ParkingEye PCN - Challaborough Bay P&D - No purchase of
appropriate time
DIR By: RBDO
Date: September 5, 2025, 6:02 am
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Hi all,
Today I received a Letter Before County Court Claim. Hopefully
the link below will show an image of the letter itself for exact
wording etc.
Do I need to reply to Parkingeye via their portal to let them
know I’m not paying, or do I just ignore this letter?
Thanks in advance.
HTML https://imgur.com/a/fpVE9ml
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Re: ParkingEye PCN - Challaborough Bay P&D - No purchase of
appropriate time
DIR By: b789
Date: September 5, 2025, 6:37 am
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Why didn’t you make a POPLA appeal? That would have shown them
you are not a pushover. You didn’t.
What evidence to back their claim for the alleged breach of
contract did they include with the LoC? We are not interest3 in
any of the enclosed forms that would ha been with it and you can
discard those.
#Post#: 88903--------------------------------------------------
Re: ParkingEye PCN - Challaborough Bay P&D - No purchase of
appropriate time
DIR By: RBDO
Date: September 8, 2025, 5:30 am
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Sorry to bump, but I’m keen to know what folks advise; should I
communicate my intent to take this to court, or ignore this
letter?
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Re: ParkingEye PCN - Challaborough Bay P&D - No purchase of
appropriate time
DIR By: DWMB2
Date: September 8, 2025, 6:01 am
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It might help to answer the questions in the previous post.
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Re: ParkingEye PCN - Challaborough Bay P&D - No purchase of
appropriate time
DIR By: RBDO
Date: September 13, 2025, 4:52 am
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Apologies; for some reason neither of the previous replies were
showing when I refreshed the thread - and I only found these by
chance going through my junk folder and finding a notification.
Even my ‘bump’ message wasn’t showing. Will have to close tab
and restart in future.
Thank you for the responses.
As I described previously, I didn’t make a POPLA appeal because,
having been through the PPSSCoP, it wasn’t readily apparent to
me what basis I had to appeal. I didn’t have a personal picture
of signage, and—annoyingly—when I returned to take pics both the
payment machine and signage had been replaced with new models,
so I couldn’t make a claim on the basis of signage. Thankfully I
have pics of the broken machine from the day, at least.
This also meant I couldn’t be sure whether section 6.1.2 was
relevant to my case: so I didn’t have a concrete basis for
appeal.
Since I had no concrete challenge, and my research on this site
made it clear POPLA strictly consider only considerations of the
guidelines, it seemed a fruitless exercise.
#Post#: 89743--------------------------------------------------
Re: ParkingEye PCN - Challaborough Bay P&D - No purchase of
appropriate time
DIR By: b789
Date: September 13, 2025, 5:09 am
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You ALWAYS make a POPLA appeal. What about putting the operator
to strict proof that they had a valid and contemporaneous
contract flowing from the landowner that permits them to issue
PCNs in their own name? What about putting them to strict proof
that all their signs conform to the respective CoP?
Anyway, it is too late for that now.
Why has the charge gone from £100 to £130? On what legal basis
have they added £30? Do the signs at the location mention this
£30? The signs are the 'contract" the driver agreed to. If the
contract does not mention that the charge is £100 plus an added
£30, then it is a false claim.
You have only shown us the cover page of the LoC. What evidence
for the claim did they include with the letter? Once we know
that information, we can better advise on what you should
respond with.
For example, did they include any of the following with the LoC?
1. A copy of the original Notice to Keeper (NtK) that confirms
any PoFA 2012 liability
2. A copy of the contract (or contracts) they allege exists
between your them and the driver, in the form of an actual
photograph of the sign they contend was at the location on the
material date, not a generic stock image
3. The exact wording of the clause (or clauses) of the terms and
conditions of the contract(s) which is (are) relied upon that
they allege to have been breached
4. The written agreement between their client and the landowner,
establishing standing/authority to enforce
5. A breakdown of the charges claimed, identifying whether the
principal sum is claimed as consideration or damages, and what
the added £30 fee is for and whether it includes VAT
I can go on but I think you may get the gist.
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