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#Post#: 17269--------------------------------------------------
Re: Lambeth Parking - Stopped on a restricted bus stop/land
DIR By: fraser.mitchell
Date: March 14, 2024, 6:05 pm
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I think you should go back to your original post that outlined
what seemed to be a fairly chaotic situation, and in the
circumstances, the nicety of where you were parked, was
overlooked. Dealing with drunks and intoxicated people can be
extremely difficult so enforcing this PCN is unjustified in my
opinion. Would they be enforcing it if you were assisting people
to escape a fire ? I would hope not.
#Post#: 17341--------------------------------------------------
Re: Lambeth Parking - Stopped on a restricted bus stop/land
DIR By: privates
Date: March 16, 2024, 4:32 am
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--- Quote from: Incandescent link ---
>
> I think you should go back to your original post that outlined
what seemed to be a fairly chaotic situation, and in the
circumstances, the nicety of where you were parked, was
overlooked. Dealing with drunks and intoxicated people can be
extremely difficult so enforcing this PCN is unjustified in my
opinion. Would they be enforcing it if you were assisting people
to escape a fire ? I would hope not.
>
--- End Quote ---
Dear Sir/Madam,
I believe enforcing this PCN is unjustified to the extremes
mentioned in my appeal. I was assisting and dealing with
overly-intoxicated individuals coming out of the venue I was
working at and had to make sure they were escorted safely to
their safety. Dealing with such intoxicated people is extremely
difficult which makes me believe enforcing such PCN is
unjustified. You have mentioned issues that would have occurred
when parked in the bus stop but I was in the vehicle at all
times so such situations would have been avoided if I had seen
any busses approaching. I believe the nicety of where I was
parked is overlooked.
For this I ask that the PCN is cancelled.
Thank you.
I think it needs some extra touch ups, any recommendations on
anything else to add?
#Post#: 17343--------------------------------------------------
Re: Lambeth Parking - Stopped on a restricted bus stop/land
DIR By: fraser.mitchell
Date: March 16, 2024, 4:46 am
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I've tidied it up a bit.
--- Quote ---
> I believe enforcing this PCN is unjustified due to the the
extreme situation I was confronted with at the time, as I
outlined in my appeal. I was assisting and dealing with
overly-intoxicated individuals coming out of the venue I was
working at and had to make sure they were escorted safely to
their taxis and other vehicles. You will surely realise that
dealing with heavily intoxicated people is extremely difficult
which makes me believe enforcing this PCN is unjustified. You
have mentioned issues that would have occurred when parked in
the bus stop but I was in the vehicle at all times so such
situations would have been avoided if I had seen any busses
approaching.
--- End Quote ---
#Post#: 17346--------------------------------------------------
Re: Lambeth Parking - Stopped on a restricted bus stop/land
DIR By: H C Andersen
Date: March 16, 2024, 6:36 am
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The keeper was issued with a PCN which they claim to have not
received;
They were then served with a CC;
After some shilly-shallying the keeper appears to have
authorised the OP to act on their behalf;
The OP wrote to the authority extra procedurally;
The authority responded to the keeper(with a letter whose date
is hidden) saying that 'you are no longer able to formally
challenge the PCN'.
OP, this is where the keeper is. They are not inviting anyone to
do anything other than pay. If the keeper doesn't wish to pay
then they wait for the OfR and check on its progress proactively
as detailed earlier.
We haven't seen any video evidence as regards the contravention,
but the photos simply show a stationary car without any visible
activity.
Is this where the keeper and you are in the process?
IMO, the keeper doesn't have a statutory defence. Your story is
that you were asked to bring your car to the club from wherever
it was parked in order to assist your employer. These are not
statutory grounds of defence.
#Post#: 17348--------------------------------------------------
Re: Lambeth Parking - Stopped on a restricted bus stop/land
DIR By: privates
Date: March 16, 2024, 7:18 am
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--- Quote from: H C Andersen link ---
>
> The keeper was issued with a PCN which they claim to have not
received;
> They were then served with a CC;
> After some shilly-shallying the keeper appears to have
authorised the OP to act on their behalf;
> The OP wrote to the authority extra procedurally;
> The authority responded to the keeper(with a letter whose date
is hidden) saying that 'you are no longer able to formally
challenge the PCN'.
>
> OP, this is where the keeper is. They are not inviting anyone
to do anything other than pay. If the keeper doesn't wish to pay
then they wait for the OfR and check on its progress proactively
as detailed earlier.
>
> We haven't seen any video evidence as regards the
contravention, but the photos simply show a stationary car
without any visible activity.
>
> Is this where the keeper and you are in the process?
>
> IMO, the keeper doesn't have a statutory defence. Your story
is that you were asked to bring your car to the club from
wherever it was parked in order to assist your employer. These
are not statutory grounds of defence.
>
--- End Quote ---
I have attempted to download CCTV but do not seem to be able to
from the website. Camera footage shows my colleague waiting by
there vehicle while employees from venue come to there car to
take there payment it seems.
I will wait for the OFR
#Post#: 18306--------------------------------------------------
Re: Lambeth Parking - Stopped on a restricted bus stop/land
DIR By: ivanleo
Date: March 25, 2024, 6:21 pm
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--- Quote from: privates link ---
>
> I will wait for the OFR
>
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[member=61]privates[/member] you know that's a bad idea as your
post is extremely unreliable. You need to call the traffic
enforcement centre once every 10 days until they tell you the
debt is registered, then you need to download form TE9
HTML https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/1094491/Parking_TE9.pdf<br
/>and go through the usual process (I'm pretty sure we've guided
you through this before).
If you just sit back and wait for the OfR, the next update you
give us might be that a bailiff has clamped your car.
#Post#: 20007--------------------------------------------------
Re: Lambeth Parking - Stopped on a restricted bus stop/land
DIR By: privates
Date: April 19, 2024, 1:32 pm
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--- Quote from: cp8759 link ---
>
> [quote author=privates link=topic=655.msg17348#msg17348
date=1710591512]
> I will wait for the OFR
>
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[member=61]privates[/member] you know that's a bad idea as your
post is extremely unreliable. You need to call the traffic
enforcement centre once every 10 days until they tell you the
debt is registered, then you need to download form TE9
HTML https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/1094491/Parking_TE9.pdf<br
/>and go through the usual process (I'm pretty sure we've guided
you through this before).
If you just sit back and wait for the OfR, the next update you
give us might be that a bailiff has clamped your car.
[/quote]
Where can I get a TE9 signed at a solicitor office as you had
advised before? I have tried contacting county courts but I have
had no luck on getting through!
#Post#: 20302--------------------------------------------------
Re: Lambeth Parking - Stopped on a restricted bus stop/land
DIR By: ivanleo
Date: April 22, 2024, 12:51 pm
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--- Quote from: privates link ---
>
> Where can I get a TE9 signed at a solicitor office as you had
advised before? I have tried contacting county courts but I have
had no luck on getting through!
>
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[member=61]privates[/member] you don't need a solicitor for form
TE9, that's only required for form PE3 (I know it's confusing).
Form TE9 you can just fill in on your computer, sign by typing
your name in the signature box, and email it to
tec@justice.gov.uk with the PCN number in the subject line.
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