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#Post#: 6795--------------------------------------------------
TFL - Stopped where prohibited (on a red route or clearway)
DIR By: privates
Date: October 5, 2023, 4:35 pm
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Hi all,
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Needing to appeal this on behalf of a family member. This PCN
has been received for loading in this bay - it says on the sign
'no stopping Mon-Sat 7am-7PM except loading max 20mins'
She was parked here while picking up shopping from the shop few
seconds away from this location. It wouldn't have taken longer
then 5 minutes nor does the evidence they have provided show
this.
I have contacted them in regards to only receiving the charge
certificate.
The pictures are as follows :
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#Post#: 6815--------------------------------------------------
Re: TFL - Stopped where prohibited (on a red route or clearway)
DIR By: fraser.mitchell
Date: October 5, 2023, 6:21 pm
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Please post the PCN, all sides, with only name and address
redacted.
There is a current issue of legality with CCTV enforcement of
parking bays on Red Routes, but we need to see the PCN to decide
if you are included in that issue.
#Post#: 6833--------------------------------------------------
Re: TFL - Stopped where prohibited (on a red route or clearway)
DIR By: privates
Date: October 5, 2023, 7:36 pm
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HTML https://ibb.co/DGyqRZF
HTML https://ibb.co/k1VPDD2
#Post#: 6843--------------------------------------------------
Re: TFL - Stopped where prohibited (on a red route or clearway)
DIR By: fraser.mitchell
Date: October 6, 2023, 3:20 am
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You have posted a Charge Certificate. This cannot be appealed,
only paid. So what happened to the original PCN ?
If it was not received, then your family member should wait for
the Order for Recovery, then submit a Statutory Declaration that
it wasn't received. The matter will then be put back to the PCN
stage.
#Post#: 6885--------------------------------------------------
Re: TFL - Stopped where prohibited (on a red route or clearway)
DIR By: privates
Date: October 6, 2023, 11:56 am
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I shall do, thank you.
#Post#: 6946--------------------------------------------------
Re: TFL - Stopped where prohibited (on a red route or clearway)
DIR By: ivanleo
Date: October 7, 2023, 9:52 am
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Also please give us a link to the exact location on google
street view (not a link to a screenshot).
#Post#: 6986--------------------------------------------------
Re: TFL - Stopped where prohibited (on a red route or clearway)
DIR By: privates
Date: October 7, 2023, 7:59 pm
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HTML https://maps.app.goo.gl/k7iimznVohiHGhj96
Link for the location
#Post#: 6996--------------------------------------------------
Re: TFL - Stopped where prohibited (on a red route or clearway)
DIR By: fraser.mitchell
Date: October 8, 2023, 4:00 am
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OK, so this looks like a bay on a red route, so cannot be
enforced by CCTV. However, as you haven't posted-up the PCN we
cannot tell if the PCN was issued by a CEO or using CCTV. If it
was CCTV then the PCN was served unlawfully, following a case at
London Tribunals. However, Transport for London have taken the
matter to judicial review, so it is not a final decision.
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Re: TFL - Stopped where prohibited (on a red route or clearway)
DIR By: ivanleo
Date: October 8, 2023, 5:03 pm
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Photos:
HTML https://i.imgur.com/BJpfZjD.jpg
HTML https://i.imgur.com/0ZID3P1.jpg
HTML https://i.imgur.com/8pCmIPS.jpg
So this is an easy win on appeal, but let's not forget we need
to deal with the charge certificate first.
[member=61]privates[/member] please confirm your understanding
of the next steps.
#Post#: 10117--------------------------------------------------
Re: TFL - Stopped where prohibited (on a red route or clearway)
DIR By: privates
Date: November 13, 2023, 5:05 pm
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On Hold: SUS40 - Statutory Declaration Receipt - as of
09/11/2023
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